Ah yes - the classic Trump approach.... just yell Fake News as loud as possible.
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I'm seriously hopeful that the people who have historically given into this lie are wising up.
Don’t hold your breath. The Repubs will just say they haven’t read the news.
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He knows they have the screenshots and the NSC confirmed it, right?
https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1904221405618577650
NSC statement: "At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our national security." - NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes
The Trump administration does not deny this Signal group chat about the war planning for the Yemen strikes is real. Trump’s top national security advisers added reporter
@JeffreyGoldberg
@TheAtlantic
to the war planning text chain on non-government social media app, perhaps breaking secrecy laws. Read this shocking story below.
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The classified plans aren't allowed out of the SCIF and the phone isn't allowed in the SCIF. Anything you learn in the SCIF cannot be stored, shared, or spoken about outside of a SCIF especially on electronic media. If anyone in the military did this, like lets say Bradly Manning, and shared it with a journalist, like say Julian Assange, they would end up in prison for a while.
All that is true. In addition, those communications are subject to records retention laws, so using signal and flagging them to be deleted is illegal in itself.
You dumb fuck, there are screenshots of all of it, plus your own people admitted it
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Getting blackout drunk and sending texts isn't uncommon for raging alcoholics. Source: I used to be an alcoholic (sober for 6 years)
To be clear, Hegseth (the guy with a history of getting blackout drunk) isn't the same as Michael Waltz, the guy who invited Goldberg to the chat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Waltz
Waltz, unlike Hegseth, is not a random idiot, he definitely knows better.
"Waltz received four Bronze Stars while serving in the Special Forces during multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Africa. He served in the Bush administration as a defense policy director in the Pentagon and as counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney."
As far as Hegseth (or any of the rest of them for that matter) was concerned, the list was all vetted and pre-approved people.
The fact that NONE of them actually vetted the list before saying anything speaks volumes.
They went down the line asking "Hey, who else in your department needs to be a contact on this?" and they all sounded off one by one, except Goldberg.
Nobody thought to ask "Hey, J.G., we haven't heard from you yet. In fact, wait, who is J.G.?"
JFC we have better OPSEC in EvE Online!
Waltz, unlike Hegseth, is not a random idiot, he definitely knows better.
I'm pressing X to doubt so hard rn
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6 years strong! Wooooo! Congrats!
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The fucking White House confirmed this shit.
Working the playbook. Step 1: Deny
Lmfao
The editor in chief of The Atlantic wrote an op-ed on the whole episode, and they have corroborated and confirmed from multiple sources that he was, indeed, inadvertently shown data that is considered SCI in a Signal group chat that was likely conducted through the personal devices of administration officials.
There is no debate here. That happened. This is like rear ending someone in your car and totaling both vehicles and just refusing to even acknowledge that you even felt anything.
It's like the "We're all trying to find the guy who did this" skit with the guy in the hotdog suit and the hotdog car.
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Even if everyone in the chat had a need-to-know, you do not use insecure 3rd-party software for classified communications. Secure networks already exist for this.
Not to mention why they are using it in the first place... so they can't be FOIA'd
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Maybe he was drunk.
We are starting an office pool on how fast He goes into DT's during Congressional questioning. It's only fair that he sits in the chair at least as long as Hillary did.
It's adorable you think "fair" matters at all to these people.
If anything, they'll give him breaks to take emergency shots.
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These fucking guys only ever lie and deny.
Are we really too stupid and weak as a country to be able to do anything about this?
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Don't forget Tuli was on the chat too, I sure do feel safe with our inept leaders.
Definitely showing her whole anti war schtick was always bullshit. JD Vance was the only one pushing back in that thread, and not for the right reasons.
You're right Pete. It wasn't texting.
It was RCS through an untraceable encrypted messaging app named Signal
Which is WORSE since records are destroyed
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Ah, going with denial in the face of concrete evidence to the contrary
Classic Trump move
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"You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again...This is a guy who peddles in garbage.
Hegseth then added, "oh wait, that's me."
Why is nobody talking about the fact that we are bombing Yemen? Yes, including a random person in a text channel talking classified information is a problem. But, why are we just brushing off the actual chat contents?
Because pointing out that America is bombing Yemen is like pointing out that water is wet.
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There's a couple reasons -
- It wasn't so much "bombing Yemen" as it was, bombing a terrorist organization within Yemen's borders. This is something every American administration has done for decades. That makes it poor political fodder, you can't "one up" the competition with it.
- Most Americans would agree that the Houthis, once it is explained to them who they are, need to be bombed. The actual action would be reprehensible to some, but acceptable to most. You can't put pressure on an admin to change their tactics when they feel they have a plurality of support.
- The sad and undeniable fact is that in American politics - American lives are simply more important than foreign ones. That's not really unique to American culture, it's not meant as a criticism, it's just a sad reality. Bombing Yemen is pretty low risk for American lives - but sloppy OPSEC put American lives at huge risk so that's where the focus is.
In a perfect world, the fact that America is committing violence in other nations and is not realistically reigned in by International Laws or Treaties would be a point worth getting upset about. But that fact is over 100 years old and has been successfully normalized. The idea of incompetent buffoons operating the Department of Defense like a bunch of frat boys trying to organize a kegger is marginally newer and more impactful on the national psyche.
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He's going with the Shaggy defense? "It wasn't me". I mean, it works for them. It will probably all blow over because no one is going to do anything. But this should absolutely destroy him.
🎵Journalist caught me on Signal (It wasn't me)
He saw me schemin' on Yemen (It wasn't me)
Even list of ordinance (It wasn't me)
He even caught me on a screenshot (It wasn't me)
He saw the bombs dropping on Sanaa (It wasn't me)
Heard the words the CIA told me (It wasn't me)
Late night host laughter getting louder (It wasn't me)
Shouldn't have drunk that vodka!🎶
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Jesus, these people are so fucking predictable.
Sooo Pete didn’t do it, but trump also says that Pete learned his lesson?
US is a joke. A very dangerous joke.
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Fuck you Pete 'DUI Hire' Hegseth.
You used a non-approved communication application and caused a massive data leak with you and your incompetent morons in office using OpSec that my junior engineers know better and if any one else did what you did, that's be fired and be facing charges.
Fucking pathetic children who can't take any accountability.
Disgusting comments about Europe in the group chat. The USA is a pariah state; the sooner we disentangle from it, the better.
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Having complete morons in charge does confer particular tactical advantages.
inadvertent mistake.
Lets give the benefit of the doubt and say it was a mistake. Is that a matter and a position, where such a mistake is tolerable? Or is it something that disqualifies for any position in that domain and demands immediate resignation?
Because if you seriously make a mistake, and you realize the gravity of it, you take responsibility for it. If you instead remain in position, you either don't recognize the gravity of it, which is an even bigger reason to resign, or you indeed acted with intent.
But in this case it did not start with inviting Goldberg. It started with making a chat group on an unauthorized app, likely using unauthorized devices to discuss matters that are explicitly forbidden to be taken out of specific permitted official channels.
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Prove that the sender of that message doesn't match the cryptographic fingerprint of Hegseth. If he didn't send it, then it wont match.
Signal allows you to verify all your contacts in the group chat.
This is so easy to solve. Jfc
The journalist just has to show the safety number of the person who sent it, and hegseth has to verify it with his device. They're obviously already in each others contacts, or at least are aware of each other's presence in the group chat. Its pretty hard to ignore some random journalist entering the chat since it alerts the entire group.
What makes signal great is, yes, privacy, but also the authentication of your contacts. You know you can't possibly be talking to someone else's device if you have verified their safety number.
Witkoff in Moscow when added to chat?
https://bsky.app/profile/olgalautman.bsky.social/post/3ll663snbc224
He must have been drunk and had a blackout.
"Wasn't me"
— Pete Hegseth
Ah yes, the classic Shaggy defense. What's that shit conservatives say? We're still in the first year.
"Nuh uh" is what you're going with, huh? The screenshots, the validation from your own administration... and your response is "didnt happen"?
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command"
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