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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At this point I can only assume that Microsoft is actively trying to punish me for using their products.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Ever since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown to be a sadist.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 103 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Why? Who's asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.

I don't want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC's, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

This is well said. So many people don't get that of course these companies know you hate this shit.

They're just trying to boost their stock value and violate your privacy harder.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Once you realize this, you also realize that there's no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there's enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it's only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.

There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago

I don't think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.

The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.

I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like 'cloud' was the big buzzword of last decade.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago

In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video's filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.

However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.

Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've read this exact questions tens of times now. This is capitalism. Now why would a for profit company ever do anything? I leave you to your deductions.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (7 children)

"I see you are dual booting with Linux? I've reformatted that partition for you."

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The LLMs demand more data, so MS is providing it by scraping our personal hard drives. Well, not mine, but still most peoples.

I still have Win10 running on an air-gapped laptop because there are no Linux drivers for my cheap auto-feed scanner, which I'm using to scan a raft of old photos. Once that project is done, I'll put Linux Mint on it, and use it for something fun.

Gimp, Inkscape, Blender, Steam, LibreOffice, Obsidian, and Jellyfin do everything I want from a desktop.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How long before you can’t turn this off or uninstall it, just like Edge, or Bitlocker, or TPM, or mandatory Microsoft accounts?

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

My mom is a retired nursing instructor, I've picked up a few things over the years. This is going to be fun when a HIPA violation occurs via MS A.I.

Honestly any industry where you see confidential information or proprietary information, could pose a massive threat to customers. Just knowing how much of a product your competitors are shipping to a location can tell you a lot of what they are planning.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guarantee you they will solve it by lobbying to get rid of HIPA

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Windows is the security risk

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As if recall wasn't bad enough.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago

Step 1, delete Windows 11. Step 2, install Linux Mint.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the difference between big software companies and drug cartels? No, this is not the opening line of a joke.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Drugs can at least be fun?

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Important to note here that if you are running Windows or a dual-boot, the new version of O&O ShutUp has a utility that allows you to delete CoPilot.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago

It's kind of amazing how much they're willing to tear down in hopes of this "" incredible "" AI vision

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How long until we can trick the Ai into deleting the System32 folder?

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

lol

they just keep piling on justifications for switching away

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[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Time to regulate the shit out of them. They don't know what consent is, they flaunt the abuse of privacy laws.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I never bought Windows 11 for AI shit. It wasn't even what came with 11 originally. Hey Microsoft, why not make a version of Windows 11 with all the AI stuff fully turned on and call it Windows 11-AI. You sell it separately and up charge as much as you want. Just reset 11 to no AI and have it be the bare bones 11.

Edit: 2 things too. Violating user privacy could carry a risk as far as attorney-client privledge goes because attorneys work on 11 from home. So just ransaking all data could cause that right to be waved. Subpoena much?

Also, the AI-Windows could be upsold as a luxury, which means you can charge more for AI-11.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They can't do that. They have all of their money riding on AI. They can't possess any data that might show the all-mightly Shareholders that they bet wrong.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Because they make so much more $ from selling your data. Microsoft would rather push these AI programs in an update, and bank on their users not noticing. The majority of users operate in a walled garden, they aren't editing registry files or manually running commands, so they are less likely to notice the changes. It's the power users that notice this shit, and sound the alarm.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 18 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Um, just in case, I'll have you know that I name all my folders "trans porn". It doesn't mean anything in particular.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Transporners, more than meats the eye

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Planning on spending a months wages building a monster rig that runs Windows 11?

Cool. When it's done just take whatever your CPU, GPU, RAM is and reduce the number by 50-75%. Have fun.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Scammers won’t need to social engineer grandma into giving out her SSN, they can just ask her AI many times and eventually, it will spit out absolutely everything.

Interesting Defcon presentation about how AI is a security nightmare:

DEF CON 33 - Exploiting Shadow Data from AI Models and Embeddings - Patrick Walsh

https://youtu.be/O7BI4jfEFwA

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 hours ago

Never. Ever. EVER. INSTALLING. ELEVEN.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, they won’t be accessing my personal folders and files because I just won’t use Windows. Thanks but no thanks. That’s really creepy.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

cackles maniacally in Linux

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 13 hours ago

What if I were to tell you the security risk was inside the OS all this time?

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been watching Windows get worse and worse from the sidelines for years now, but it seems they are really ramping it up now. It has gotten so bad, I genuinely feel bad for Windows users now. But it's also pretty damn funny.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hey, I've seen this one before.

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