So we should display religious things of only the original occupiers of the land? I don't think she's going to be happy with the conclusion there.
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I for one am all for this plan. Schools would be a lot cooler if they were decorated by the local Native American tribes.
Never underestimate the kinks of people.
As long as someone beneath me gets hurt at least a little bit...
Haven't you heard? "European whites" are actually natives now. That's literally what those fascists on Jubilee said and were cheering for.
They will just change the reality if we let them.
Muslims have a long and proud history of serving this country with honor and distinction for centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_in_the_United_States_military
The first country to recognize the US was Morocco, an overwhelmingly Muslim nation then, and before then, and now. And for that long-lasting support, real Americans suggest they don't belong here.
Yes. I have served with some.
Also, let's not forget the interpreters we had that risked their lives to help us. Many we worked to bring back to the states. They are amazing people and I would choose any interpreter that I ever worked with over my own mom. My mom was horrible btw.
Yes. Sadly I know all about this and it hits pretty close to home for me.
They are pissing off a bunch of operators and such and that's never a good thing.
Personally I do think it should be required to post some amount of Islamic concepts. Among the many ways we are too provincial is seeing everything through the eyes of a single religion family. Even our friends and neighbors seem alien when we aren’t even aware there are other religions.
Let’s require at least some comparative religion study, perhaps in social studies and history. The major religions have had a huge impact on the development of our societies and we should all be more familiar with beliefs held in common or u destined where they’re actually different (and not just the Fix News version)
They should learn about Christianity and Islam in their history textbooks. That's fucking it.
My mom once asked if my Jewish girlfriend celebrated Thanksgiving. When I scoffed, she reminded me that there weren't any Jews on the Mayflower.
I reminded her that there weren't any Catholics either.
Nice. You gave her the burrrnn. Good job. We need to really start correcting much of this type of misinformation out there when people say it one day many many more will believe it.
It's a fight against windmills. There's a certain type of person who's just totally resistant against learning new stuff. They got their opinion and that's truth and screw everything else.
You might correct one thing, but by the time you did that they already dug up three new pieces of garbage.
It's so frustrating.
In fairness, Thanksgiving wasn't made a national holiday until 1863. By then, the US had plenty of Catholics, in no small part thanks to the Irish Potato Famine of the prior two decades.
It also had plenty of Jews, thanks to the Napoleonic Wars and the then-recent string of wars along the border of the Ottoman Empire.
Hell, it might be worth pointing out that the Mayflower was the product of the 30 Years War (of which the Hell on Earth podcast miniseries does a really excellent job of documenting), which also produced a sizable exodus of Catholics and Jews to the New World. So, it seems they've got as much of an excuse to celebrate 17th century Settlers Colonialism as anybody.
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
Instructions unclear, ran off into the woods and ignored everyone
You're doing it right.
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
yeah, by ignoring them, they're bringing back diseases that were managed well (polio, etc) and put the US in the hands of fascism.
Christians fought for the land? You are talking about the genocide of native Americans? The same ones that owned slaves?... Yeah ok, I understand why YOU like them so much now...
About 20-30% of the people enslaved and deported to the US were Muslims.
The "Christians" brought Islam to North America by force.
Lots of folks in the US don’t really have an understanding of religion as a separate thing from nationality.
They think of “being Christian” as “being like the other white people in my neighborhood growing up”. End of thought.
So drinking beer, watching football, and hating taxes are all “Christian things” to them.
So when they say “Christians — and only Christians — died for this country”, they’re 100% correct, according to their understanding of “being a Christian”. Cuz to them it basically just means “being an American”.
There’s really no way to convince them otherwise. It’s like telling someone that Velcro is really called “hook and loop”.
You’re basically saying: Christians don’t read the bible, they just act like their peers and all the bad habits that can go with that.
Wrong... A simple google search shows that Muslims did indeed fight in the US revolutionary war along side other colonists
"If Muslims don't like it, they should return to their native countries!" I cry, as I rubber stamp another billion dollar check to bomb the Levant.
Are we talking about the Christians who very explicitly opposed the concept of a religious state? The ones who put that concept front and center in their Bill of Rights?
I give this ragebait a 6/10. Could be worse, could be better.
What if it isn't rage bait but a simple slice of the prevailing idiots point of view who think the US was founded a christian country?
https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html
The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life.
"If God truly does exist, he more so loves the atheist who questions the world around him than the Christian who blindly follows."
Thomas Jefferson
50% of the Founding Fathers were agnostic or atheist. My question is: why does she hate America?
God, fucking Christians. We need a slur for them or something so badly. I'm so sick of them.
I prefer the term "Christian" (as a slur)
I started trying it out, it doesnt have the same zip as like, cross licker or whatever
We always called them bible thumpers
"Nyeah nyeah, my god is better than yours" - some cunt failing to realize they worship the same god
"Christians" also stole this land and genocided people who had lived here since long before they came. Those who don't like this should return to where their forefathers came from, no?
I have met Muslims who fight for America. Let's see her military service that she's so proud of
All social media is overrun by troll factories with the purpose of sowing discord. I just assume all such accounts are "bots" (although often human-run).
(Yes, some try to sign up also to Mastodon et.al. - but are usually spotted)
People don't read. Paraphrasing:
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Jesus (J): "Why would you call me 'good'? Only the Father is good."
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Muhammed (M): "Our Lord has decreed mercy upon Himself, so to anyone who commits sin out of ignorance and then repents and amends, He is Forgiving, Merciful."
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J: "It's easier* for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich man to enter Heaven."
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M: "Those who hoard gold and silver and don't spend it in the cause of God, give them news of a painful retribution."
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J: "You have been told 'do not murder, for whoever murders will be judged for it', but I tell you anyone who is angry and insults their brother will be judged for it too."
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M: "The righteous are those who suppress their anger and pardon the people. God loves the good doers."
TIL that nobody in the US military that has died has never ever been Muslim.
Jesus would hate his followers. They have zero understanding of the message. But that's ok, cause he wasn't the Messiah, nor was he a historical figure, so nothing lost there.
But Jesus's message is that He will come back and murder everybody who doesn't bow to Him; He is called the wine press, and people are the grapes and their blood is the wine.
It's possibly the worst religious message ever, I suggest that you ignore it.
I just don't want their pedophile religion forced on me and my kids. Full stop.
I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of Jews, Muslims, Atheists, and others that have bled for the US too.
indigenous people did, are you ok to show their spirituality in schools? I am sure there will be mass conversions lol
~20% of the slaves brought to America were Muslim. Several fought during the Revolutionary War including Bampett Muhamed, Yusuf ben Ali (also known as Joseph Benhaley), and Joseph Saba: https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/african-muslims-early-america