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Covid-19 pandemic.

The grocery stores near me have taken down their coffee grinders during the pandemic. They had signs posted saying: “Temporarily Closed for Sanitary Reasons due to Covid-19”.

When lockdown ended, the coffee grinders were covered in in plastic and the signs were re-phrased to: “Temporarily Unavailable until Further Notice.”

Then one day it was all gone. The store employees and managers said at first that it was because of Covid, then a few months later they said it was ‘upper management’ decision – this was for both corporate and family-owned stores.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I ended up buying a Cuisinart coffee grinder at this family-owned grocery store chain (they’re popular in parts of Canada and upstate New York).

The grocery store I go to has a massive wall of whole beans and the grinders are right next to them. Always like trying different flavors out.

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I suspect you are right right in mentioning single serve waste producing machines.

I think there has been a greater split between those who tolerate crappy coffee and those who don’t - the crappy coffee people have moved to the expensive single serve machines, and the people who are picky grind at home (and probably also don’t buy at the grocery store). The rest evidently use pre-ground. Plus, the grinder at the grocery store isn’t cleaned regularly. I have distinct memories of them smelling like the flavoured coffee, which, today, I find revolting.

The gap between commodity coffee and snobby coffee has grown, and the availability of snobby coffee has grown between the multitude of roasters and online shopping. If it’s, say, $10 for a bag of premium coffee beans that’s of unknown age (at least 2 months) and lists only “south American” as its origin, or $15 for a bag of 3 day old locally roasted beans from a specific farm in Colombia, I’d go for the latter. I think my prices are a good 10 years old, but let’s just use it as an example.

Ironically the k-cups are quite a bit more expensive than that.

The in store grinders are still around in some stores.

Others have mentioned many reasons, and while they do still exist in specialty groceries, they've died off because they are just bad.

Anyone spending good money on good coffee knows the in-store grinders will taste like all the crap-flavored beans the past 12 people put through them.

Even with unflavored grinds your supposed to grind some and toss it just to clear the old stuff out.

I think your intuition is probably right, but also Amazon happened. You can get a grinder delivered to your house in a day or two for like $10. Nobody who cares about fresh-ground coffee is going to hesitate to invest in a grinder when it costs less than a bag of beans.

the only grocery around me that had one took it out when they quit selling coffee that way, a few months into covid.

I have memories of them being featured on supermarket sweep as well.

Decreased demand.

• People who want something simple often use pods.
• People that buy whole bean are more likely to have grinders at home.
• In places like the US, especially on the coasts, many people have finally learned what good coffee tastes like, and it usually doesn’t come from pre-ground coffee.

Pre-ground coffee is also on the decline in my neck of the states. Almost all of the packaged coffee is whole bean because people have grinders.

Costco is my go-to place for coffee, and they still have them. However, I don’t use them, I bought a burr grinder. I prefer grinding the coffee beans right before brewing.

If you’re serious about coffee you know it’s best to grind as soon as possible to brewing, so you get a grinder. A really good burr hand grinder is like $100 and a good enough one is like $20, a solid burr electric grinder is like $150.

If you don’t care so much you just buy preground. Keurig and nespresso “unrecyclable plastic waste generator for shit coffee” machines also needed far more shelf space. I cannot stress enough how the keurig is a blight on humanity. The coffee is objectively bad and that is whatever, it’s still drinkable, but it creates so much unnecessary plastic waste with every brew. This wouldn’t be so much of an issue if it didn’t become the de facto coffee method of every lazy shit who drinks coffee every morning (read: 60% of America). It is a scourge. It is pathetic that you go to a place like target and there are 18 different keurigs, 1 Mr. Coffee, and that’s it. At least the Mr coffee isn’t wasteful. But I digress. It wouldn’t kill them to stock a French press or something though.

An anecdote: I saw someone online who was able to buy a grocery store coffee grinder (Bunn G3) for crazy cheap (like $150) at auction around Covid times because the store was selling it off. Maybe that’s when they were getting rid of them? Apparently it was filthy, which tracks, but performed well once disassembled and thoroughly cleaned. They’re like $1400 new. But coffee people are nuts and that’s nothing, there are grinders that are like 4000+

I can think of a lot of reasons for it.

• The machines take up a lot of space, and create a lot of mess.
• Pods have taken over a huge chunk of the pre-ground market.
• More people than ever have grinders at home.
• Packaging of pre-ground coffee is better than it used to be - better sealing containers, and fresher coffee to start with.
• The huge variety of coffee brands means that what you would get out isn't what you put in.

There just isn't much of a need for people who want to buy whole beans but grind them before getting home anymore. People will either buy whole beans and grind at home, buy ground coffee in a well-sealed container, or buy pods of some form.

This is interesting... I was not into coffee before COVID so I didn't notice it before, wonder if it was indeed because of the pandemic as others mentioned

I don't think Trader Joe's is exactly a popular brand on Lemmy due to unrelated reasons, but if there is a Trader Joe's near you, would you mind checking if they still have coffee grinders? I do vividly remember that my local Trader Joe's store had one. Also I'm pretty sure most coffee roasters would still grind the beans for you (not that most serious coffee enjoyers ever use that service, but still)

Chiming in to say that I still see them fairly frequently. But also, as others noted, most people who want fresh ground coffee can just do it at home now.

Also, I imagine that the grinders were only ever really introduced to try to sell customers on more expensive whole-bean coffee that had a higher margin than folgers. But now every independent coffee shop sells beans in-store and you can choose from 10 million options online. So its not really drawing in new customers there either.

I imagine the stores keep the grinders because they'd be a hassle to remove, but then remove them when they break, since they aren't worth it to fix.

I want to know why people who would buy whole beans would grind them in the store.

I often wish that you couldn't even buy the same brands of coffee either ground or whole bean. The disappointment of accidentally getting a bag of pre ground coffee at some random coarseness is real.

Poeple who buys coffee beans already have the required hardware at home nowadays.

They disappeared like pay phones, restaurants giving mints and toothpicks, and public water fountains.

Covid really killed a lot of stuff.

Coffee-buying has increasingly gone gourmet. I think most people who brew coffee at home have a grinder. But ground coffee starts losing its quality pretty soon after it's exposed to air, so grinding fresh only matters if you brew it right after grinding. For people who only make coffee for guests or only drink it for the caffeine, there's pre-ground options. Also, grocery stores don't want to sacrifice that valuable shelf real estate for the large grinder...

A few of the stores I shop still have Community Coffee branded coffee grinders. But not like it used to be with one in every store

I think two of the somewhat fancier grocery stores I go to have grinders there. The more basic one I usually go to I don't think does. I don't drink coffee myself, so I'm not 100% certain.

The last place I saw one was Costco, but the one by me at the time removed it during the pandemic. I remember Whole Foods used to have them but I haven’t been in years.

I’ve never had a problem getting someone to grind a bag for me at Starbucks, including bags bought elsewhere.

Many, at least half, of my local stores still have one though I ended up getting a grinder partly because I can never remember which for sure.

But they are still very common! I have noticed no decline.

I think many people stopped using them, because they use machines at home that have built in grinders.

The coffee grinders hung on at several of the grocery stores near me, but got relocated to behind one of the checkout counters. They hung on there for a number of years but finally these got removed as well, along with the option to buy coffee beans loose and by weight. The majority of shoppers probably just bought pre-ground. For what it's worth, myself and my parents were the only people I ever saw buying whole beans or using the grinders, over the span of decades.

One of the froofy high end grocery stores near me does still offer bulk beans (along with their other bulk products like dried fruit, lentils, trail mix, etc.) but there are no grinders in the store. They probably assume anyone who's enough of a coffee nut these days would rather grind their own beans at home, and they're probably right.

Probably covid