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[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (32 children)

I’m a bit lost. Wasn’t the killer a far right dude who disliked Kirk and MAGA for not being far right enough/in the same ways as him?

Can someone get me up to date?

[–] gbzm@piefed.social 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was also under the same impression, but it seems to have grown less clear?
https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2025/09/15/tyler-robinsons-groyper-connection-truth-or-conspiracy-theory/

In any case, Kirk enjoyers have never been known to let facts get in the way of their hate

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hearing that old dude read the messages was pretty fucking telling that they are making that shit up. No kid, especially a terminally 4chan one, talks like that. Maybe the stuff about the wrapping of the weapon and where he left it, but no kid is talking like a WWII love sick soldier stuck overseas.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 24 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Careful. Confirmation bias makes it exceptionally easy to come up with reasons to disbelieve things that don’t fit what we presume about a topic.

I think it’s fair to say we don’t know the shooter’s motivations for sure. Being confident that the shooter was far right just because his family is seems just as terrible a conclusion to jump to. How many of us have conservative families we disagree with?

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the dude wasn't going "oh my love how I long for thee" like the old dude was saying.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Why not? You didn’t know anyone in college who liked to speak differently sometimes, whether for fun, to be ironic, or to be flowery and “romantic”? People are figuring out who they are in college, some people do stuff other people might consider weird. That type of language doesn’t shock me at all.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 56 points 23 hours ago

Doesn't matter. That first dopamine hit about trans "rhetoric" got him and that is all his tiny little Texas brain needed. America is a giant puddle of gasoline and the regime here keeps flicking lit matches at it.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 48 points 21 hours ago

We have no idea why he killed Kirk. He is not going to talk because they said they would execute him before they caught him. The shooter now has no reason to cooperate.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes, but the fascists blamed it on trans people before the blood hit the floor.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what he believed, they have blamed it on the left so it's now the left's fault

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

they blame everything on the left.

Surprised they havent blamed trump having to climb up an escalator as an elaborate antifa terrorist attack on the sanctity of american decency.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oh they definitely tried too, Fox News was talking about bombing the UN headquarters. It just happened to come out pretty quick that the dumb shits did it to themselves.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Surprised they havent blamed trump having to climb up an escalator as an elaborate antifa terrorist attack on the sanctity of american decency.

They have though...

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

They actually did

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The only actual evidence we’ve been shown is that he was largely apolitical but grew up in a MAGA family, and at some point in time began disliking CK, possibly due to a pendulum swing against his hard right family after moving out. There’s no real evidence to support that he was hard right or hard left, or in fact had any strong political affiliations. Only that he disliked the guy he shot enough to shoot him.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Facts are irrelevant to these people. They trust nobody's word beyond those who affirm what they want to believe.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 72 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Every single mass shooter has been claimed to be trans by Alex Jones for the past like 3 years. Before any evidence is out, 4chan posters will find a random trans persons social media profile, grab pictures and post them claiming they are the shooter. They claim that psych meds (like anti depressants) and hormones fuck with your head in a way that makes you crazy and wanting to shoot people.

This shit is on purpose to inspire dumbasses like this guy.

[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

i know some of these far right conspiracy-minded fools. nothing can break them out of their delusion.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 70 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] arin@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Crazy accurate for this case

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I’m 42 and have been struggling with mental health issues since I was a teenager. But seeing and hearing all of the maga talk and conspiracy’s makes me realize that I’ve had my shit together this whole time.

As a reminder to anybody of any age that is suffering with mental health issues, remember that you are loved and needed and every day might be a struggle, but just getting up and putting 1 foot in front of the other is more than enough to achieve a goal.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I thought that I was a fairly low-tier human for a long time. The Trump Regime has forced me to reevaluate. I am a decent person.

That is disturbing.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

I remember stumbling on creationist debunks back in middle school and coming to the conclusion that I may be a dumbass but at least I ain't completely delusional and a dumbass. This whole BS with the right wingers being fucking deranged and stupid has done wonders for my deranged mixed inferiority/superiority complex.

[–] jdf038@mander.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago

Same here. Those who are open to changing and dealing with it and doing the work can go really really far, too.

I wish guys like this weren't stigmatized from admitting they need help, asking for it, and working on themselves.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

That's exactly why kirk must rest in piss

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The media did this on purpose

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think they meant billionaires

[–] bunjiman@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Still the same

[–] Zagam@piefed.social 8 points 19 hours ago

They'rethesamepicture.jpg

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Charlie wouldn't have wanted this! Oh, wait, charlie kirk? Yeah, he'd have wanted this. Disregard.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Which Charlie were you thinking of? Charlie the unicorn probably would have handed him an AK-47 just to watch the chaos.....

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 38 points 17 hours ago

The GOP sure knows how to inspire violence

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That ol' boy looks like he ate the guy who ate all the pies. His blood sugar must have been low, he was just hangry. If only someone had given him a Snickers.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Another MAGAt that looks like ISIS but with white skin.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Vanilla Isis

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Charlie would have been very proud

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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

He's facing federal charges?

So, you mean that he'll be let free. I'm calling it now. They're going to try and paint him as a victim of political targeting by "woke" agents. Goofy Eyes Patel will then dismiss the charges and fire the agents.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 11 points 1 day ago

There has to be some kind of action taken against inbreeding

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

What a shithole.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

It all makes sense in the MAGAt mind.

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