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[–] gbzm@piefed.social 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was also under the same impression, but it seems to have grown less clear?
https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2025/09/15/tyler-robinsons-groyper-connection-truth-or-conspiracy-theory/

In any case, Kirk enjoyers have never been known to let facts get in the way of their hate

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hearing that old dude read the messages was pretty fucking telling that they are making that shit up. No kid, especially a terminally 4chan one, talks like that. Maybe the stuff about the wrapping of the weapon and where he left it, but no kid is talking like a WWII love sick soldier stuck overseas.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Careful. Confirmation bias makes it exceptionally easy to come up with reasons to disbelieve things that don’t fit what we presume about a topic.

I think it’s fair to say we don’t know the shooter’s motivations for sure. Being confident that the shooter was far right just because his family is seems just as terrible a conclusion to jump to. How many of us have conservative families we disagree with?

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the dude wasn't going "oh my love how I long for thee" like the old dude was saying.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not? You didn’t know anyone in college who liked to speak differently sometimes, whether for fun, to be ironic, or to be flowery and “romantic”? People are figuring out who they are in college, some people do stuff other people might consider weird. That type of language doesn’t shock me at all.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but they were dorks like myself and very much not inclined to be watching shit from the manosphere or shoot someone.

I know you're just playing devil's advocate, but you gotta Occam's razor this shit i.e.; if you have to make so many assumptions you're on the wrong path. What is most likely, is most likely by a large margin.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

I think what they're doing is more than playing devil's advocate in the modern use, using it more as the original meaning of advocating skepticism and caution when coming to conclusions. I think you both have points, but holy hell it's refreshing seeing someone calling for calming down and thinking skeptically on the internet when speaking to their own side.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, the kid came from a place that is whiter than the service of the moon. A place where nearly everyone belongs to at least two hardcore cults. A place so insulated, so terrified of any culture that isn't their own. I would think it's extremely unusual if he used a more modern tone and vocabulary.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I would think it's extremely unusual if he used a more modern tone and vocabulary.

I don’t know that I’d find that unusual, either, honestly. Judging by the bullet memes, he was clearly very “online.”

People are complicated. It’s convenient and very tempting to put everyone into neat boxes, but individuals often don’t fit into those boxes. Not completely.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 20 hours ago

I've been very online since the most common connection speed was 9.6 kbps. Terminally online in both the pun and colloquial sense since 20 years before the term was coined.

Memes are memes. Not a language to themselves. You still generally reflect the larger community around you. While I largely choose to speak with a more neutral to even mid Atlantic accent. When I'm around it I easily fall back into rural southern/midwestern accents. Because that's what I grew up around.