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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 99 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I think 2016 was the last great year.

It got better in 2021 for a bit.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The moment when Harambe died was when the timeline split.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Staples_McGee@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Shits been weird since Leonard Nimoy died. So make that 2015.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It was kind of a meme that 2016 sucked. Then Trump got elected at the end and everything magically got better for everyone and we all lived happily ever after.

(Do I really need to include the /s here?)

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Basically at long as taco is in the office it will be miserable.

The bad things is that in first term there was that there were still competent people around him. This time he fired everyone and replaced with lackeys. Unless he is stopped, US might not recover from it.

Just looking at the recent meeting in Bejing shows how quickly USA is losing its power. And it's been only 7 months.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 87 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It was 2014. That was the final year of that Obama high where things really felt like they were turning a corner before we were slowly confronted with a world where Donald Trump might actually be president, and the only one standing in his way was somehow Hillary Clinton, a woman that Republicans had been preparing to beat for literally 20 years.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is actually the right answer. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and we're all still in the middle of what is essentially a no-declared-sides WWIII now. 2015 was good, but things had shifted in the world a bit. Countering China was starting to become a huge deal suddenly for the US, and China moved into the South China Sea and did some currency revaluation that was all aimed at their 2029 and 2049 CCP anniversary goals.

Also, I was in fucking phenomenal shape.

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[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Its whatever best year you remember. From my perspective, its been sharply downhill since 2000.

Those older than me often say it went to shit during the Reagan years. Its been slowly getting worse for a long time.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

It's whatever year that the oppression affecting the less privileged finally reached you.

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (10 children)

You may not have been paying close attention. Obama was astoundingly better than Trump, but invasive spying on citizens was allpwed to remain legal under his watch, and he extended what was allowed. Drone striking questionable targets started under him as well. There's more, but those two are the highlights usually brought up.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The worst the obama administration got was a typical couple of weeks of the Trump administration. It is so much worse now it's unthinkable it could have gotten this bad when looking from the perspective of 2015.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Drone striking questionable targets

if you want to bring up warcrimes, the world has never been normal, especially not the US, they've been up to some heinious shit since before we were born

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (9 children)

hhhooo boy...let me tell you about how it felt to live in the world before September 11th 2001...

it was freaking amazing.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

I came here to say the exact same thing. 9/11 changed the US forever in a bad way.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, it was 2016, right before orangini and brexit.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

He was so pure of soul the Lord had to take him away before the world got fouled.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 42 points 2 days ago (4 children)

September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren't as important as revenge.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

sept 11 was the first time the republicans had the chance to seize the opportunity to put america on track for its fascist fourth reichdom fantasy.

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[–] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It says 2019 to trick the viewer into commenting "no 2012" or 2016, since no real human thinks everything was great until 2019. It's bait for interactions.

This is an ad for McDonald's

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you fucking dumb? Do you not remember Drumpf's first term in office?

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

God sent us plague as a warning to not elect him, and he ended up in the office.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ive lived through a few of these already.

2020 is when everything changed.

2016 is when everything chagned.

2012 is when everything changed.

2008 is when everything changed.

2001 is when everything changed.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In a way it's fair to say that every moment changes every moment that happens after. The entire global economy is still reeling from Reaganomics ffs.

I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I'd seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.

From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off... And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.

Then it started snowballing... Bill Cosby's a rapist, there's a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone's kind of okay with, we created AI but it's only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn't a crime if you brag about it, America's war machine is being turned on its cities... Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.

It's a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children's book in an elementary school.

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[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

None of those are correct. There is before Harambe and after Harambe. The day he was killed everything changed.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

To me it was 9/11 that started the insanity.... Either way, if you look at movies from the 80s and movies from today, you clearly see the humanity lacking from todays movies.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let’s be real- it was the US’s response to 9/11 that started the insanity. There was absolutely a way forward, but no- some shitheads gave the Americans a bloody nose and the US decided to try to stop the bleeding by stabbing itself in the heart for two decades while threatening anyone who pointed out that this was a bad idea.

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[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just a reminder that traitor lunatic Trump was president in 2019. So no. Lol

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago

Exactly. You have to go back to at least 2015 to find anything resembling normal life.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump was president in 2019 and I remember him cutting massive amounts of food aid (means on wheels) for elderly people during Christmas time. It was some serious Scrooge shit, except he didn't get three ghosts to make him mend his ways.

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[–] sundray@piefed.social 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The old people who run the world feel the weight of their impending deaths, but in their narcissism they have mistaken it for the oncoming end of the world.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago
[–] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The real insanity stems from everybody having a random lingering covid symptom that's just annoying enough to drive you insane, but not bad enough to kill you. 5 years later, I still get phantom burning smells that I can't even compare to anything I've ever smelled before. It's torture.

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[–] mikedd@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

I feel like that about 2016. I'm telling you, it all started with Harambe. It all went downhill from there XD

[–] mcbenavides85@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago

Covid definitely fucked up peoples brains.

[–] glorious_goldfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s absolutely social media to blame imo. 10 years ago they were only just starting with the aggressive algorithms we know today. This combined with the rise of TikTok and its own algorithm has lead to a resurgence of the right. I believe this was a direct response to how progressive we seemed to be getting in the 2010s. The wealthy right were getting scared. I occasionally accidentally see YouTube “recommendations” and it’s usually unhinged right wing shit with millions of views.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fall of 2012. Obama wins again. Weed is legal in some states. Gay marriage. Nuclear powered tank lands on Mars. iPhone 5.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

Harambe died in 2016

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The world has always been crazy. Just more adults are becoming aware of it and able to see it all the time, every day.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My ex wife cheated on me on December 28th, 2019.

I took a whole bunch of pills two weeks later that apparently are not lethal in any amount.

However, since then, I am all but convinced we live in hell, because never once in the past 5 and a half years has anything gotten better.

I'm sorry y'all. This might be the bad place.

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[–] wet_bones@lemmy.4d2.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 2 days ago

Shaka, when the votes fell.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"I just got a great idea for a new novel! It's about the end of humanity, but with a twist, because the humans don't even know they are done for yet. They think it's just a bit more aggressive flu, but in fact it's highly contagious and each time you get it, it damages your brain a slight bit more. Everyone keeps getting infected and so they slowly get dumber and more aggressive until civilization collapses in wars and economic chaos."

"That's stupid, something like that could never happen."

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

It was Harambe. We didn't reload.

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 14 points 2 days ago

Eh The Matrix had it right. 1999

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Its actually that between 1991 and 2001 that we merely had a full decade of relative stability in world events. Crazy shit stopped happening for a while and we have collectively imparted that things used to be "normal" on people born after 2001 but they've interpreted their own childhoods as the normal years.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It’s not an alternate timeline.

It’s the most profitable one.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Same but with 2012.

Maybe the Mayan apocalypse people were right.

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