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The announcement follows Newsom’s 2024 executive order, which directed encampment cleanups after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling granted state and local governments more authority to remove them.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 163 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Dude's really method acting his trump "parody" isn't he.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe he can send trans people to gulags too. After all, Newsom's message seems to be "Hey, I heard you like fascists... vote for me! I can do a fascism too!"

Experience has shown that trying to out-fascist the fascists always works really well for centrists. Anything but the compassionate, progressive politics people desperately want.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (5 children)

And where do you plan to have them go? Because they have to go somewhere. Perhaps instead of fighting a symptom you treat the cause. Like a complete lack of affordable housing. And things like corporations and hedge funds hoarding single family homes that sit empty, often not even on the market because they're treating them as appreciating assets not homes.

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)

In order to actually address the homeless crisis, we would first have to fix U.S. Healthcare.

Or we could leave everything broken, with the wealth still being transferred upwards, and keep funneling the people that have been ground up and spit out into our growing for-profit prison industry...

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

someone should pose that question to the red states that literally ship their homeless to california and then call CA a shithole for having a homelessness problem.

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[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I loved that they let a ton of people out of jail when they legalized marijuana and vacated a ton of convictions.

But then they literally just turned people out on the street with zero fucking pathways. No money, no home, no phone, just zero fucking resources.

It was an almost overnight explosion of homelessness in San Diego.

Sure they have always had a homeless population (the weather is particularly ideal for living outside most of the year), but nothing like it turned in to.

Clearing camps won't help. Like you said, you need to solve the root problem.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

A large amount of destitution is caused by people being bankrupted by medical bills.

The other big causes are untreated mental illness and addiction.

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[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Encampment sweeps kill.

https://www.propublica.org/article/portland-homeless-deaths-multnomah-county

But although the city spent roughly $200,000 per homeless resident throughout that time, deaths of homeless people recorded in the county quadrupled, climbing from 113 in 2019 to more than 450 in 2023, according to the most recent data from the Multnomah County Health Department. The rise in deaths far outpaces the growth in the homeless population, which was recorded at 6,300 by a 2023 county census, a number most agree is an undercount...

These deaths came during the same period that Portland began a two-pronged response to public pressure over homelessness. City leaders began moving homeless people out of public view by removing tents at a rate far surpassing those of its West Coast peers. Since 2021, it carried out 19,000 sweeps, and it dismantled over 20 encampments per day in 2024, according to city records.

At the same time, the city reduced money for stable permanent housing while dramatically increasing its investment in temporary shelters...

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

They know. It's the actual goal, not an unfortunate fluke of the system.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How is a city spending $200k per homeless resident and still not providing them with housing?

That's more than 8 years' worth of rent/mortgage at $2k per month. And even longer in a more reasonably-priced home.

I understand there are more expenses than just rent, but I also understand that it's nearly impossible to get a job if you don't have a permanent residence. If we've got a homelessness crisis that includes working families, why wouldn't the states want to help those families?

A rent/mortgage assistance program seems like it would do a lot more long-term good than simply "cleaning up" encampments.

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Fuck Gavin Newsom. The dude is scum. All the people blowing him are the worst

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Where did all the newsom stans go?

EDIT: the number of downvotes is the number of people who agree with performative cruelty to homeless people.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago

Newsome is such a two faced piece of shit.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Behold the sparkle of champagne.
The crime rate's gone, feel free again.
Oh, life's a breeze with you, Miss Lily White.
Taylor Swifts on the screen today.
Convinced the liberals it's okay.
So let's get dressed to dance away the night.

While they kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.

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[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 36 points 2 days ago (21 children)

I was speaking with an older lady about who could be as energizing for the left as Bernie for the next election, I said AOC and maybe Jasmine Crockett on the same ticket. (which is a pipe dream, I'm sure)

Anyway, she said Gavin Newsom, and didn't believe me when I said he's a centrist. And I couldn't understand why she even felt he's a leftist. He must have some good pr somewhere that I'm not looking lol

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's plenty of left leaning Americans who think Doug Ford is a good guy because he says shit about Trump. It shouldn't be surprising.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, most Americans don't pay any attention to Canadian politics (or any other country tbh). So Doug's jacked up policies go in one ear and out the other because they very broadly don't affect Americans.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

The older lady is driven by name recognition.

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[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (20 children)

... by making affordable housing and giving it to the needy?

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[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

This is the trick the fascists are playing on us. They've corrupted both sides, and hope we'll believe that the one that is "less fascist" will be able to save us from the one that's "more fascist". NOPE, surprise, it's fascism all the way down! The game is rigged, the trap is sprung, the only winning move is not to play.

If you're familiar with the 4 boxes of liberty, it's time to understand that the ballot box has already failed us and abandon the idea that we can vote our way out of this mess. We're past that. We're firmly in the jury box stage right now and it's not looking too promising with the amount of judicial interference going on, the administration flaunting rulings that don't go in their favor, and the supreme court stacked.

With the fourth box, understand that the first and possibly even most potent ammunition you will ever have access to is free speech. But it will also be the first to run out. Use what's left of it while you still can. Be vocal. Be a shit disturber. Many people need their shit disturbed, some need it to wake them up with the information they're not willing to accept, others need it because they're fascists themselves. Disturb them. Attend protests. Prepare to go on strike. Collective action is more powerful than people give it credit for. The country cannot function without wage-slaves feeling chained to their jobs, clinging to it like a lifeline and too afraid that rocking the boat will see them let go. This is a method of control. Prepare for turmoil and disruption. Find people who can help you and support you when things go south. Seek community and resilience, find people who will look out for you, and do what you can to look out for them. Find ways to organize if you can. There is strength in numbers. The clock is ticking, and it's not going to wait for you to be ready. Get ready now, and get involved. This is everyone's fight, and if you're not already fighting, you're late, get moving.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Can’t wait to be yelled at to stop complaining and vote for him in 2028

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's already happening...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

And he's only the preordained nominee. We haven't gone through the kabuki primaries yet.

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[–] Envy@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

Vote Blue! (Who we tell you to)

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[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Clear encampments by.... Giving them homes to save money?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here's hoping that AOC or some other progressive wins the white house. Newsom, while better than Trump, is still shit.

As for Cali, I am hoping for Katie Porter or likeminded folk to take leadership when Newsom vacates his office. The homeless and everybody else needs help from someone who genuinely gives a damn.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would bet cash money the DNC selects- I mean uh he fairly wins the DNC primary for next election cycle lol.

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[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

200M spent on alligator Auschwitz and an estimated 450M annual operating cost.

Some googling tells me that an apartment building can cost about 200k/unit (I suspect it could be less). That's 1000 units. And then imagine what would happen if you put that yearly operating cost into healthcare and other social programs.

They want to build 1000 concentration camps. Florida is working on their second. Texas has one. Other states will certainly follow.

Maybe Newsom should be building homes instead of division.

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[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You see, that’s why I just can’t get behind this guy. Sometimes he is on point, other times he is a complete fuckhead. At least he isn’t full-time fuckhead like basically every republican, but that isn’t saying a hell of a lot.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago

He's never in point. He made some tweets, then he made a knockoff Trump store hoping people would be dumb enough to buy that shit.

He's a scumbag though and through, only interested in advancing his career.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The governor’s office stated that the task force will prioritize sites deemed unsafe and collaborate with local governments to connect individuals with shelter, health care and substance use services.

So much is not covered in rage bait titles.

this is the same tactic that got us trump this second time.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This sounds an awful lot like Louisiana...

Relocation begins: Jeff Landry's administration clears New Orleans homeless encampments

Louisiana coerced unhoused people into an unheated warehouse – and paid $17.5m for it

It started out as needing to clear everyone out allegedly for security reasons bc of the Bourbon street attacks and the Superbowl, but everyone assumed he was trying to just slap a coat of paint on the city. Then it happened again when there was a big Taylor Swift concert, now it's like every time "we have company" we should just understand Landry will be rounding up homeless people to make the city more presentable.

People keep saying Newsome is just doing this kind of shit to prove he's a centrist Democrat but I'm kinda starting to worry it might be a little more sinister than that.

Word of advice for California, be very cautious about allowing any state police or task force to permanently or semi permanently set up in your cities. If it gets proposed push back as loud and hard as you legally can, no matter what you local government might indicate about it.

Homeless sweep ahead of Taylor Swift concert reveals conflict between city, Troop NOLA

Troop NOLA: What we know about the new Louisiana State Police troop in New Orleans

Mayor LaToya Cantrell 'in alignment' with Gov. Jeff Landry's crime plan for New Orleans

And if you can't stop it from happening make sure your city hammers out even the most obscure details in a contract. If you're not sure if you need to bother with getting it in writing, you do.

New Orleans council member pushes city to ~~enter agreement~~ get written agreement on homeless sweeps with State Police

I changed the original headline bc it's misleading. It makes it sound like the contract was something city council wanted bc they wanted homeless sweeps. The city pushed for a formal contract bc State police were just doing it without any say from the city on how they rounded people up or where they took them.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago

Apparently it's really hard to not be an asshole.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

as described, it doesn't seem as bad as the title

but we all know the reality will not be as it is described

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Maybe provide some place for them to go.

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