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And where do you plan to have them go? Because they have to go somewhere. Perhaps instead of fighting a symptom you treat the cause. Like a complete lack of affordable housing. And things like corporations and hedge funds hoarding single family homes that sit empty, often not even on the market because they're treating them as appreciating assets not homes.
In order to actually address the homeless crisis, we would first have to fix U.S. Healthcare.
Or we could leave everything broken, with the wealth still being transferred upwards, and keep funneling the people that have been ground up and spit out into our growing for-profit prison industry...
I live in Canada, we have universal healthcare and we still have a huge homelessness problem. Its because everything is so fucking expensive now and there is pretty much zero support for mentally ill people or drug addicts. I live in a relatively small town and we even have a few homeless camps around. The police will raid them and make them move all their shit out every once in a while, but then they just come back again, they have nowhere to go
Also not disagreeing that the US needs to fix it's healthcare
The fix is multifaceted I feel, everything you said is spot on for the issues.
I feel a fix requires Universal Basic Income and Housing, along with mental health support. A minimum level of support would at least help a lot of these people to be able to get off the ground or at least live with a modicum of dignity.
Universal Healthcare would help at least with health issues that people out on the streets face.
Create a national jobs force/program, like the old Civilian Conservation Corps. Which can be organized and deployed to various US infrastructure projects, like building high speed rail. Offer some universal basic income along with their jobs. And offer housing as well.
I agree, having that and high taxes on the wealthy were part of the reason the US had such high levels of prosperity for the average citizen back in the olden days. The whole country should be getting connected via high speed rails, I feel. It would open up jobs for people living in more rural areas as well.
It's too bad that neither party is interested in doing so.
2 seperate things. housing would have immediate benefit than, something like healthcare reform. not to mention all the laws around rent control, zoning laws and nimbys.
Just housing them is really damn effective in my experience. They recently opened a pallet shelter "village" in my area. Since, I basically never see encampments, and the number of visibly unhoused folks has dropped a lot (since they just look like everybody else due to regular access to hygiene facilities). According to the cops, they've had zero calls out to the village.
We should still do all the other things, but just put up a ton of free basic housing and you can make enormous visual progress.
someone should pose that question to the red states that literally ship their homeless to california and then call CA a shithole for having a homelessness problem.
The vast majority of Californian homeless people become homeless in California. Some people do come here from out of state, but it’s around 10% of the total homeless population. 75% of homeless Californians even live in the same county they became homeless in.
California doesn’t have a ton of homeless people because everyone else is bussing homeless people here, it’s because it’s expensive as fuck (both rent and home prices).
I… literally linked to it. The article is about the study those numbers come from.
I loved that they let a ton of people out of jail when they legalized marijuana and vacated a ton of convictions.
But then they literally just turned people out on the street with zero fucking pathways. No money, no home, no phone, just zero fucking resources.
It was an almost overnight explosion of homelessness in San Diego.
Sure they have always had a homeless population (the weather is particularly ideal for living outside most of the year), but nothing like it turned in to.
Clearing camps won't help. Like you said, you need to solve the root problem.
they Did that in sf, during the ASEAN conference in '23, and they came RIGHT back immediately. Its just PR for newsom. once newsome"im making fun of trump" news dies down, he will probably going back to not caring.
A large amount of destitution is caused by people being bankrupted by medical bills.
The other big causes are untreated mental illness and addiction.
And a lot of addiction is caused by underlying mental illness.
The root cause of almost all these problems is healthcare.
And unaffordable housing, unfair wages, lack of worker rights,lack of opportunity, prohibitively expensive education, racism and sexism in the union trades, debt based everything, cost of living hikes and living in a dystopia in general
There are quite a lot of unhoused people who would rather remain homeless. From the conversations I’ve had, it’s not always just circumstances beyond their control. Some have had negative experiences with shelters or social services, and many feel more freedom living outside the system than being tied to its rules and restrictions. It’s not the case for everyone, but for some, homelessness is a conscious choice rather than only the result of hardship.
"If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population!" --Newsom, probably
i heard about that, surprise people dont discuss it more. some willingly are homeless, because wouldnt need to pay rent, or taxes, and if they get sick, they can just go to the hospital and not get charged for it.
i think nimbyism is more a problem in california, than the other 2 things. I remember a nimby group(white people) threw a huge fit over in norcal like 1-2 years ago. of a building/center being built. and then its zoning laws.