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Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 190 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It turns out the ones indoctrinating the kids have been the conservatives all along.

Fuck school choice vouchers.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And the voucher / charter system is exactly what evangelicals (sorry, christofascists) want, because it strengthens their Western civilization (sorry, white nationalism).

[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 147 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The stupidest part of all this is its going to hurt the red states the most. Blue states already have great education

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Can conservatives even get more stupid?

I would have thought voting for a felon rapist traitor who gives tax breaks to the wealthy over an actual prosecutor was rock bottom.

But I guess there is no rock bottom for conservatives.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rock bottom is mass murder and wars that kill millions or billions — considering nukes and global warming — up to and including the extinction of the species, and death of the planet.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sometimes I feel like we deserve it

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[–] Catma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You ever hear of the war of northern aggression? How about the traitor of the union Abe Lincoln?

You are gonna hear alot of this in the future

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The poorly educated are more susceptible to misinformation and manipulation. This will make the red states redder.

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[–] PapaSkwat@lemy.lol 107 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.

So it's more efficient than a bank, BUT needs to be run by an actual bank? How stupid does he think we are?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 99 points 1 week ago

77,302,580 americans are that stupid...

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How stupid does he think we are?

Before or after destroying the Department of Education? The entire reason behind this is that uneducated people don't know their rights or how the government works, so the GOP can run roughshod over our rights.

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[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago
[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Department of Education currently manages a student loan debt portfolio of more than $1.6 trillion.  This means the Federal student aid program is roughly the size of one of the Nation’s largest banks, Wells Fargo.  But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.  The Department of Education is not a bank, and it must return bank functions to an entity equipped to serve America’s students.

Move student loans to private banks! There it is.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

so what im hearing is the DoE was way more efficent, and deserved additional funding, right?

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

What I understand is that they are more efficient, and loans aren't even it's core business..

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The Department of Education was established by Congress. Elimination of it will take an act of Congress. This man is the biggest puppet ever.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Why do you think they'll follow any sort of law or rule? Legitimate question.

They can tell everyone they're fired, change the locks/codes. Shutdown emails etc. and there is literally nobody that will stop them.

Except us with weaponry.

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[–] CosmicJoker@lemm.ee 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This dude is disgusting a traitor and by far one of the most vile men to walk this earth all he's missing is millions of dead bodies like his Nazi idol.

America is disgusting.

Where's all that talk about "my 2nd amendment rights" wake up America you're a fascist country now. Use your guns before it's too late.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In case you missed it: most of the people crying about their 2nd amendment rights and duties are the people that applaud this. The rest is aware that making use of their right would mean a civil war with former group.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The US is rapidly becoming the world's largest third-world country.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Depending on where you go they long have been. As a Canadian the difference between our countries is jarring as soon as you step off the beaten path.

Edit - I wanted to elaborate for those not in the know. I grew up lower middle class in Canada and have been to many smaller areas in America over the years. The poor in Canada still have education and healthcare covered by the state. Poor people are easily distinguishable but at the same time they are very much the same as everyone else.

In Canada, you take the wrong turn and you're going to be met by a friendly stranger who will help you and point you in the right direction. In America, you take the wrong turn and you're Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

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[–] Idiott@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

50 third world countries in a trenchcoat.

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[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago (6 children)

But he needs Congressional approval to do so.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm looking forward to Schumer whipping up enough bootlickers on the dem side to pass this in the spirit of cooperation

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[–] knightly@pawb.social 33 points 1 week ago

Pretending that the old rules still apply is how Empires fall.

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[–] Mee@reddthat.com 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wow.

I looked at the articles that was expecting for that to happen today, never thought he would actually do it.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Yet more evidence that trump is an agent of Putin and is actively dismantling the United States one piece at a time

[–] ech@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

What in the past 3 months gave you the impression that it wouldn't?

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm sorry anyone in a red state. You and your children will never learn a goddamn thing of worth again. Fuck this country.

[–] UnPassive@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My mom is a school counselor at a tiny school in a tiny town in Montana. There is no way the school stays open. Or 90% of our public schools for that matter. Part of me wants to tell her "I told you so" but generally it just sucks so bad I don't have the energy

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because US Americans are too damn educated today and we need them to be less educated /s

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[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Congratulations!! This means the average person in America is already too educated. Right!? Right?

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 35 points 1 week ago

So I assume all the special ed money in Red states will now just go into a slush fund to accelerate executions, and an amplification of attacks on marginalized groups instead of helping kids/families.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

USA is becoming a dictatorship in 10... 9... 8... 7...

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

kinda late on that countdown mate.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does this mean schools can now give as many trans rights as they want? State rights?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welp, if the main reason not to is out of fear of losing federal funding...

Seems Trumpy has kind of shot himself in the foot on this one.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Was on the radio, some notes:

  1. The responsibility of FAFSA (which is 2/3 of it's budget) likely goes to Treasury and honestly I don't think they can realistically pull that back legally, at least anytime soon. Disability funds supposedly will move somewhere too.

  2. The DoE itself likely will exist in the same limbo as USAID since legally it requires Congress, and judges can and will challenge illegal moves. That said, I say limbo because USAID may have got people back but empty buildings and ongoing stuff is ruined. Expect that from DoE, even though it shouldn't be allowed.

My own info, though, is they only provide public schools about 5 to 10% budget on average, and yes, it's heavily towards rural districts. This likely will have very little impact on blue states, although don't go celebrating as budgets are already tight in several places and even blue states will cut into education to fund other things like fire relief. Our Blue states are still no where near as good as many European and Asian country educational institutions.

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[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't something Trump would even care about. He's being handled very well this time around.

Remember Rick Perry wanted to close the department of Education as well. It's been on the Republican checklist for a while now.

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

My God, this is beyond sad.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Is america already great again?

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think the practical problems with this are going to be weird. The federal Department of Education is pretty small and doesn’t set as much policy as people assume since that’s 90% done at the state and local level. The college student loan program is a huge component and could theoretically be ruined or just moved to Treasury or HHS or whatever.

The rest is mostly grants to state and local governments and red state politicians are going to be even more pissed than blue if they kill those and put a hole in their budget that has to be filled. (Doesn’t mean they won’t do it but it’s not going to please any governors/legislators.)

The people who will likely suffer most are special ed students since those grants are, obviously, for public schools and private/parochial schools basically never have programs for students with severe, profound, or mild autism. (I don’t know the current terms but when I was in high school, people with, for instance, autism were classified as severe, profound, mild, or moderate based on where they fell on the spectrum. Those terms are probably outdated or were unique to my school system.)

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Super embarrassing. Fucking idiots and their followers

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think they do something like "soft secession". Instead of breaking the federation apart officially, they're eroding the federation (federal government) to the point where it's no longer relevant. They talk about "state's rights".

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