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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 88 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

The major premise of Capitalism is risk vs reward. We hit a tipping point though, where 99% of people do not have any capital to risk, and the people who do have the capital have enough to nullify any risk.

Tax the rich.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Sometimes I get mad about how we in practice have basic income for the rich. If you have a few million dollars, you can park it in zero or low risk investments (eg: high yield savings, bonds) and get free money. Then you can just fuck off and pursue your dreams. No risk. Lots of reward.

But if you're poor? Well you better take any job for any salary or you're just a parasite blah blah blah. All pain, some risk, little reward.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

My ex gets an allowance from his grandparents every week. They also bought him a house.

He’d get a job for a couple years, fuck around and get fired. Only got through college because I did his homework.

He has a house, he has a fridge full of food, he can go to restaurants and order out and take weeks off for vacation.

I worked full time through college, often three jobs. I still have massive student loans. I work two part time jobs, because the career field I went into is collapsing, and I’m not welcome as a trans person anyway.

I have always worked; he has not. I sleep on a rug and stack of pillows; he can pick out whatever luxury furniture he wants.

Work is entirely disconnected from reward.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Rich people also get handed so many free things.

Put over $100,000 in the bank and they will throw free accounts, low interest credit cards, rewards, free safety deposit boxes, personal concierge services. And that’s just the start.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Oh yeah I forgot about that. One of the banks here refunds ATM fees if you have a minimum balance of $2500 (and waives the monthly fee if you have $25,000). Like, my guys, the people who don't have money need that fee waived a lot more. But the bank just wants to make money and that means appealing to rich people.

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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Capitalism, since its inception, has been 99% of people having no capital.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

We hit a tipping point though, where 99% of people do not have any capital to risk

When do you think this tipping point was? Because as far as I can tell this was around the French revolution.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

In modern economics, a massive change came about in the early 1970s. Productivity and profits decoupled from employee wages, and continued to rise while wages stayed flat. Fast forward 50 years, account for inflation and shifts in technology, and it's easy to see that employee wages HAVEN'T RISEN in meaningful amounts for 50 years. Meanwhile, companies are making more money than ever.

So, I'd say it was in the 70's.

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[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 51 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

In a classic example you have a village with 2 bakeries, one of the bakers came up with a machine to kneed the bread, so he can make more bread and sell it cheaper. This is sort of the story people tell to show how great capitalism is.

But we have reached a point where that one bakery now owns a chain of bakers, adds ingredients to the bread to make it more addictive, skips on actual ingredients needed for bread and replaces them with sawdust, made donations to the current political party so any competition has to jump through hoops to get a bakery license, etc.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

And then uses his immense wealth and contacts to make frivolous lawsuits against smaller bakers trying to make their own machine, knowing full well they will not win in court but will financially ruin the smaller baker and tie them up in litigation for years, then forcing them to an unfair arbitration where they make a shit offer to buy out the competition

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 30 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Someone gets it.

Lets instead do this:

Every citizen, irrespective of their nationality, skincolor, gender has the right to:

  • living quarters
  • work
  • maximum of 7 hours of work
  • free healthcare
  • paid vacation
  • equal pay and treatment for women
  • freedom of religion and speech

This is directly taken from a 1936 constitution. Today one could improve on it but we're so much worse, everywhere.

Now guess which one.

Go check if you dare

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 35 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

Uh... This is coming from the folks who said "he who does not work, neither shall he eat" during a famine so... uh... yeah, that's not the flex you think it is.

Edit: And in case anyone is wondering, this gets worse with context.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 20 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

As opposed to the current time of surplus and abundance where it is if "you don't work you don't eat". Which is morally a lot worse considering there is more than enough food to feed everyone

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 19 points 10 hours ago

And those were obviously 100% kept 🤡

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Luckily, the Soviet union treated homosexuals to a similar standard. /s

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Couldn't we just add equality for sexual orientation and gender expression to a new list of rights, along with the things already mentioned?

OP even said, "Today one could improve on it," implying that the referenced constitution isn't meant to be a comprehensive list for the modern day.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

Stalin 1936 constitution. Holidays for "enemies of the people" were unpaid and in a quite cold climate of Siberia. They also cared about fitness of citizens by ensuring no one has too much of food. And if you didn't like it, you get a free ride in a black car to the place of final rest.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 hours ago

The maximum hours you can work did not apply to everyone as my former boss has stories of working 12+ hours in the gulag he was sent to for reasons he does not know.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Capitalists say the free market is king then they go and make laws to stifle and restrict it so they can make monopolies and gouge everyone out of their hard-earned income.

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[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

This meme shows a complete misunderstanding of patent law. A patent is a social contract that allows for a limited amount of protection for an invention being copied (usually 20 years) in exchange for it becoming public domain after that. This enables people to make a living inventing things. Are games played with the system, sure, does it work perfectly- no, but it’s better than the alternatives. (Source, am inventor)

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 14 hours ago

In that case literally every court also shows a complete misunderstabding of patent law

So...

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 26 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I understand what you are saying but i hope you never invent something that can solve a current day crisis.

We are already behind schedule to solve things like climate change. If someone invents breakthrough tech then we need that today and open so other minds can quickly iterate and improve. Not after 20 years of stalling on a bureaucratic advantage.

If it wasn’t for capitalism chaining survival to productivity there would be no reason for this system to exist and we can move on to teach that “all good ideas should be copied” And “the same ideas can emerge in multiple different minds”

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

People work for material gain. By not entitling creators to the product of their labour you will discourage them from creating (and also be stealing from them). Patent law is exactly the kind of thing that protects the interests of working people but our current system is too weak to stand up to corporations.

What happens if the person who can solve climate change decides instead to trade stocks because saving the world doesn't put food on the table?

IP laws are not your enemy, corporations are.

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[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This comment shows a complete misunderstanding of patent practice. Patents exist not for inventors, but for companies. Destin, from Smarter Every Day, has a recent video trying to make a grill scrubber in which he talks with many people about how Amazon for example constantly avoids patent claims from small inventors.

Humanity progressed from hunter-gatherers to the industrial revolution without the need for a judge to determine whether I can arrange atoms in a given way or not without giving a canon to someone else who decided to arrange atoms like that before me.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The problem is with corporations pushing up against weak public institutions and finding no resistance not those public institutions dummy.

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If it were a misunderstanding, why do we always see a spike in innovation once a patent expires? According to capitalist ideology, isn't competition the best that could happen, instead of having an unlimited monopoly for 20 years?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think their point was that in a way, patents are supposed to be more equitable because it allows the inventor to meet their basic needs by being the one to invent the patent.

There's also the argument that while innovation skyrockets after a parent opens up, there would be less incentive to invent new things if Walmart could just copy it for cheaper the day after you show how you make it.

Or people would be super secretive with instructions for how to make their products that innovations could die with their creators since they have no incentive to release it.

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[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then patent law is better than intellectual property law, I think it's 50 years after the creator dies and there are loopholes for companies

[–] ladel@feddit.uk 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Technically IP law covers patents, trademarks, copyright, and designs (sometimes also called design patents). Patent protection is 20 years (plus a little bit extra under certain conditions. Trademarks is indefinite in theory. Copyright (in many jurisdictions) is 70 yrs after death or 50 yrs for certain works (e.g., music recordings). Designs, I'm not really sure.

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[–] Signtist@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 11 hours ago

I'm not super familiar with patents themselves, but I used to work in genetics back when human genes were able to be patented, and Myriad Genetics used their patent of the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes to lock genetic testing for these common factors in breast cancer predisposition behind a massive paywall. Even after gene patents were no longer allowed, they refused to share their previous test results with researchers trying to develop a more comprehensive, accurate, and cost-effective test, slowing down medical research.

Research eventually progressed without Myriad Genetics' help, and within a few years after the genes stopped being patented, genetic testing for the BRCA genes and many more was down to an affordable price, even for people without insurance coverage. We now learn more and more about these genes quicker than ever, and can offer tests that cover many genes at once for a low price and with high accuracy, due to the sharing of test results between labs that never would have happened while genes were patented.

This may be an outlier in patent usage - though I doubt it - but it still shows that big companies can use patent laws more to bully fair competition than to offer a better product. Patents are a good idea for helping small businesses and individuals protect their right to make a new product without a big company swooping in, but there are still massive issues with the process that need to be fixed to keep those same big companies from using the process in reverse to keep small businesses from growing into the competition necessary for a healthy economy.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

All other things aside, 20 years is a long fucking time. 20 years ago we barely had cell phones. The iPhone was 2007 I think.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

Copyright and inheritance can’t exist in a capitalist society

Under true capitalism, everyone starts at 0 regardless of their birth and the only way to make more money than someone else is to work more hours regardless of profession. Over saturation of a given market is fixed by the invisible hand where people just move onto something that gives more hours

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

the only way to make more money than someone else is to work more hours regardless of profession

Workers aren't capitalists. The whole point of Capitalism is to ensure the ruling class never has to do the actual work. Capitalists make their money by exploiting workers, not working themselves.

Capitalists are people who own the means of production. Working in a capitalist system you will never earn enough to buy the factory. Inheritance is one of the main ways to become a capitalist. Sure some people get lucky but with few exceptions if you are rich the way you got rich was by exploiting other people .

Copyright was a halfway decent idea when it first came out. Give a chance for an artist or inventor to profit from their work for a few years and then it becomes public property. Thanks to corporations like Disney, that has all been twisted, and now it's used as a cudgel to keep others from competing and it takes almost 100 years for something to go out of copyright now (thanks congress).

A system where you do the work and get paid for your value is closer to Socialism than capitalism.

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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 6 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

A society where no one has capital and the only way to get ahead is to provide more labour? And you call them steamed hams despite the fact they're obviously grilled?

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

Under true capitalism, everyone starts at 0 regardless of their birth

Then true capitalism will never exist. At best, it's a Platonic Ideal.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Game Boy alone proves this whole capitalist rhetoric wrong. It was the most successful hand held game system for two reasons, it was cheaper than the rest and it went through batteries slower, otherwise it was objectively the worst handheld game system on the market at the time. Look at the food you are able to eat, the clothes you are able to wear, and the place you are able to live and try to tell me the driving force on those decisions was quality. Capitalism is not concerned with improving anything, that is not the goal of the system.

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