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For my money I'd say "Hot Fuzz". The script is so tightly written that it's AMAZING on rewatches. Almost every single line of dialogue is either a joke, set-up for a joke, a payoff, advances the plot, foreshadowing, establishes characters, or some combination of all of these.
The only things I could maybe see people thinking of as plot holes would be how absurd some character motivations are, but to me that just falls into suspension of disbelief.
He's not Judge Judy and executioner!
the first film and show that come to mind are Primer and DARK, respectively.
Honestly, if Primer had any, I'm to dumb to spot them.
Primer is one of those movies that needs like 3 rewatches to spot a plot hole and no one's got time for that. Another good show of this type is Steins;Gate (totally watch it if you like time travel stuff)
YES, WATCH STEINS;GATE!
Not Steins;Gate Zero though, that's a sequel.
The most common criticism is that the first handful of episodes are slow, but I hard disagree. Every moment is either re-contextualized later on, or is important character work.
On the director's commentary, he states that the ultimate cause of Granger's illness is deliberately left vague and unexplained. That's kind of like a plot hole, sort of. Or maybe it's mystery box, and not a plot hole.
lol 100% same with DARK, tbf
Primer is very smart about explanations in that it never fully explains anything. You’re only seeing their understanding of what they’ve stumbled across, which we can reasonably assume they barely understand themselves. After all, they accidentally invented time travel trying to create a device that reduces the mass of objects lmao they have no fucking clue what’s happening. The scene where they are debating what happens since he accidentally brought his cell phone back highlights how out of their depth they are. I don’t remember the exact lines, but Aaron says how cell phones work by pinging different towers until they find your phone. Then when Abe asks him “are you sure?” He says “no.”
They always kind of understand what’s happening but are ultimately making educated guesses.
Tbf the characters don't have to understand or explain anything. If there is a way for the internal logic of the movie to work without contradicting itself, that should be good enough for no plot holes.
The point though is they partially avoid contradictions by baking into the story that we and they don’t know anything.
We still know what we see. Many movies are equally vague about the actual mechanics and still introduce contradictions.
How was Dark’s finale not a plot hole?
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It’s a time loop story where the loop ends by characters behaving different than they did in any other iteration of the loop and for no particular reason.
I had a hard time following the whole plot, so I could have easily missed something.
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my understanding was that they travelled to the prime world and changed the event that led to the creation of the parallel worlds and preventing everything. The machine that led to everything never was built.
You’re correct. Dark had one of the most irrational and nonsensical endings in television history. It undermined everything the series had established and worked toward. Such a shame.
Have you seen Coherence?
Baby Driver came across as an especially tight script. I personally don’t have much of a radar for plot holes, so I might be way off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it is a solid movie, I am pretty critical but left satisfied on that one
It has one of the best scenes in movie history:
It gets my blood going every time. This movie also made any moments without music so terrifying. Such a mastuhpeec
It's a powerful soundtrack, to be sure.
Real life is riddled with plot holes, you cant expect a work of fiction to be perfect.
"Wait a minute, so you expect me to believe a politician blatantly and openly do corrupt things and still won over the voters? Twice?" 🤣
First, we have to agree on what a plot hole is.
My definition of a plot hole in a story is something that simply can not happen given the existing rules of the story, or something which could only happen in an unexplained and if not literally impossible than at least so unlikely it is practically impossible way that defies everything else we know about the story.
This would be an item inexplicably jumping locations, a character having knowledge they could not possibly have, or a character or item being in two places at once. Things like that which gnarl the story.
What it isn't: A character making a bad decision, a character acting unusual (even to the point of acting out of character- that can be bad writing, but not a plot hole), a character forgetting something, a plot contrivance, an unlikely coincidence, something being unrealistic but consistent within the context of the story.
I commonly see poorly written scenes, or scenes where someone thinks a character was acting irrationally, or scientific or legal or other plot points that are intentionally written to serve the story described as plot holes.
With that description, I'd say quite a great number of works of fiction don't have plot holes.
I 100% agree with this.
One of the classic examples often given (and one of the top results if you search for "famous plot holes") is from The Lord of the Rings. "Why don't the Eagles just fly them to Mount Doom to destroy the One Ring, allowing them to bypass all the trouble getting there?" It's often cited as a well-known plot hole and given as an example to define what a plot hole is.
Yet it's not a plot hole at all. It's just characters making decisions the reader might not agree with.
I don't want to say "none", but I think of the film "Captain America: Winter Soldier" as having some of the tightest writing in superhero comic book movies. It's something of an outlier a case study imo of strong storytelling that the whole thing is so competently put together. There are far fewer suspensions of disbelief than most superhero movies, imo.
Unfortunately, due to different showrunners, there are a couple.
Like how Tony didn't figure out hydra was infiltrating SHIELD when he hacked everything in Avengers 1. Probably should have figured that out.
And I know people like to say there are too many hydra people for them to not be well-known or easier to discover, but personally I don't take issue with that.
If hydra has infiltrated key personnel, they can move whoever they want. I'd say they concentrated their forces at headquarters and on the carriers, since that was part of their big master plan. So of course there will be a lot of bags guys in the main areas and in the carriers, and it's a testament to how few there really were that they failed. And they had sizeable resistance from non-compromised personnel.
The answer, as with all things, is Tremors.
Primer is a time travel movie with no plot holes. But I don't think you're looking for plot holes, there are plenty of movies, even time traveling ones, that don't have plot holes.
I can't think of any plot holes in Grandma's Boy.
Shrek, of course
Quantum Break pulled off an extremely well made time travel story. I don't recall any plot holes, especially not major ones.
TBH, most fiction have 0 plot holes. Most people who use the term 'plot hole' in commentary on the internet are using it incorrectly. They tend to use it to mean "something happens which I personally dislike or don't understand" rather than it's real meaning, "something that directly contradicts previous plot points and leads to a logical inconsistency." That is, it's only a plot hole if it literally cannot happen because it would negate some other plot element.
A character making a decision that feels out of character isn't a plot hole. Someone not choosing to use the sci-fi magic tech to solve a problem when it exists in-universe isn't a plot hole. It might be bad writing. But it's not a logical inconsistency.
A plot hole would be something like a plot point centering around a character's illiteracy (in a manner where it's clear they're not faking) after a scene where the character is shown reading.
One of the biggest ones in mystery is “Why didn’t X simply Y”
They can literally just be stupid. Or ego driven. Etc.
There’s a great series of mystery games where the final villain even admits this exactly. He found evidence of a murder plot against the sister of his dead girlfriend, and instead of reporting it or detaining those involved, he let it almost happen. It was literally all so he could feel like a hero saving them at the last second, and he says as much directly.
It can also be bad writing. Like, an author can just write inconsistent characters. That doesn't mean it's a plot hole.
I just finished the Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells. It’s a series of books (that was recently turned into a tv series) which was pretty great.
No time travel, but plenty of robots!
12 monkeys, the TV show, not the movie, is perfect.
12 Monkeys All Spoilers (Plot Hole Rant)
So they wanna erase the Kalavirus.
But not if Titan already activated their "Red Forest" World-Destroying algorithm because they'd be "outside of time" and therefore "rob them of the only weapon they have, time travel", so they released the virus themselves.
Like?!? "When" did the "Red Forest" sequence start? It should've always started when Season 1 Epispde 1 happened. And like, how does the Primaries getting paradoxed even make sense? If the paradox happened before Cole was born, the story can't even possibly happen because the Red Forest should've erased them all.
Still don't understand that. Makes my head spin.
ITT: Edgar Wright movies
Breaking Bad, maybe?
Nobody has called for Quentin yet?
Quentin! Oh Quentin Darling! Be a dear and bring me some of that white dudes dropping the hard r.
Blade Runner 2049 doesn't seem to contradict itself or the original.
