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Lol nothing says we are afraid of the working class like banning subreddits on suppressed news they don’t want us to see. I came here bc I got a warning on my account for liking a comment that said “Luigi”. My alt account got banned for sharing the DOGE email list that is public info. Fuck Reddit. I’m done.

Reddit decided that i can’t delete my account, i tried several times with no luck. Do you have ideas? Should i get myself banned?

Thank you Spez for banning my account of nine years for voicing my political opinion! I made many contributions to communities over the years and now you’ve lost that so good fucking bye.

Joan Westerberg has been doing great work on the Fediverse. I pasted this link in the one sub I miss r/idiocracy:

https://www.joanwestenberg.com/big-tech-wants-you-trapped-the-open-web-sets-you-free-2/

My post was really good — I used Idiocracy speech to get my scros to join me in LEMMY and not only was the post rejected but I earned a temporary ban at Reddit.

At this point there isn’t even a point in going back to leave a breadcrumb trail to be followed.

I run a moderatly successful Subreddit (~200.000 subscribers), but I want to stop. I have no interest in moderating it anymore, but Reddit as a company has totally made it clear that it is viewing subreddits as its own property:

• As far as I know I can't take a subreddit of this size private anymore
• If I just stop moderating, people still can post and will post problematic content that I don't want to see online
• If i stop moderating, somebody else can "claim" the sub and will be the new moderator, which I also don't want

Does anybody here have experience in stopping a subreddit that doesn't lead to Reddit just placing new people in control? I've already removed the option for the sub to be recommended to users and for it to be shown in "high traffic feeds" (which always led to nazi showing up btw), but I also was thinking about a way to restrict who can post or to set extreme high karma requirements for posts. Or are there any other options?

I run 4 subs on reddit, I got curious since I haven't seen any activity on my main sub. All 4 have been set to private. 3 of them are dead and I don't really care, but one is used to promote my blog so I flipped it back to public and saved the settings. When I went back and checked, it was private again.

I guess I'm being shadow banned, oh well no reason to post there again. I'll just have to set up a sub on Lemmy and move on with my life. Just curious, any other reddit mods seeing this?

I got this message today:

We’ve been alerted to activity on your account(s) that is considered breaking Reddit’s rules. We recently found that your (censored) account violated Rule 8 by repeatedly upvoting posts and/or comments that break Reddit's rule against encouraging or glorifying violence or physical harm. While you didn’t post the rule-breaking content, upvoting content that breaks the rules is also considered a violation. As a result, we’re issuing this warning and asking you to be thoughtful about any future content you upvote. Continued violations could result in a temporary or permanent ban. Please familiarize yourself with Reddit’s rules to make sure you understand the rules for participating on Reddit. This is an automated message; responses will not be received by Reddit admins.

I'm a very non-violent person, but I guess by upvoting comments that say "-F Trump" or "-F Musk" is breaking their rules. That's such a huge red flag. Now I'm getting warnings about what probably most of the world is thinking? Great policy there, Reddit.

i left reddit for good today with their obvious attempt at controlling the narrative like the rest of big social media. long live the lemmy federation

Via Reddit, of course.

The mods at r/popculture pointed it out. And then the screenshot above.

The subreddit drama

https://rdx.overdevs.com/comments.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FSubredditDrama%2Fcomments%2F1j5cqq1%2Fmultiple_subreddits_express_concern_after_reddit%2F

The comments point out some good ideas on improving the experience of lemmy for new users but I got so many comments that just didnt even want to give try it. I made an effort though. Ill keep trying to pull em in.

Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeLuigi/comments/1j5lpfp/psa_the_word_luigi_is_now_flagged_by_reddit_for/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1j5tcgj/after_an_rpopculture_moderator_is_suspended/

On r/RedditSafety, Reddit admin "worstnerd" posts:

Warning users that upvote violent content

Today we are rolling out a new (sort of) enforcement action across the site. Historically, the only person actioned for posting violating content was the user who posted the content. The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content. This not only minimizes the distribution of the bad content, but it also ensures that the bad content is more likely to be removed. On the other hand, upvoting bad or violating content interferes with this system. 

So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning. We have done this in the past for quarantined communities and found that it did help to reduce exposure to bad content, so we are experimenting with this sitewide. This will begin with users who are upvoting violent content, but we may consider expanding this in the future. In addition, while this is currently “warn only,” we will consider adding additional actions down the road.

We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility. This will have no impact on the vast majority of users as most already downvote or report abusive content. It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem is healthy and that there is no tolerance for abuse on the site.

Some users see this as a reaction to the recent controversy surrounding Luigi Mangione and the fatal shooting of the UnitedHeathCare CEO. There are concerns that this new system (which mods are speculating to be AI-driven) has potential for abuse and censorship, especially given the current vagueness of what is considered a "violent" comment or post.

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Reactions on RedditSafety:

• I see the benefit, but could it be possible this makes people paranoid about voting? Especially to be safe when they're not sure if it counts.
  • This is exactly what will happen, given Reddit has developed a recent habit of removing a bunch of things which don't violate rules. The chilling effect isn't a mistake, it's the intent.
  • They're almost certainly looking to chill political dissent or calls for armed protest that they clearly feel is likely and imminent at some point in the future. Laying the groundwork to ban and kill off accounts for voting isn't something you do if you aren't aware there's a growing issue. This isn't about curbing vote manipulation, it's about preventing growing anger and discontent from bubbling over into a repeat of the Unitedhealthcare CEO getting popped in NYC. They're seeing a clear sentiment shift and want to stamp it out, not through moderation but through punishing people who may agree with the sentiment. This is groundwork for abuse.
  • [ADMIN] Yeah, this would be an unacceptable side effect, which is why we want to monitor this closely and ramp it up thoughtfully
    • and you won't do that regardless. You admins are never careful, and you dont really need to be because all you care about are your corporate overlords, and know that reddit will continue regardless. You've purged so many communities, individuals, etc, to the order of literal thousands and yet reddit still continues. Mods try to blackout in protest and you coup them and reinstall them with people who capitulate to the corporate overlords; and when people try to remove their own content in protest, which should be their own right to do, you reverse the edits. You dont care because you dont have to, there is literally no consequence ever for your actions because you refuse to allow there to be.
    • Too bad you absolutely failed at this already.
    • Don’t give us that bullshit. We all know this will go poorly and result in false warnings/bans and the censorship of content that your shareholders dislike.
• Could you please clarify exactly how you define "violent content"? Will I get warned for upvoting an anime fight scene clip just because it portrays violence? What about upvoting war footages? There are several subreddits dedicated to sharing combat/war footages.
  • Allow me to clarify. The same poorly designed and thought out processes that suspend mods who report vote abuse, that suspend mods in modmail for responding to users who post violent content, that remove innocuous content all over the site will now be suspending you for your votes on the site.
  • The lack of transparency is a feature, not a bug. You will be punished as they see fit, if you like what they don't like. Then there will be feigned surprise when Reddit continues to go downhill.
  • They keep it vague so they can make it whatever they want it to be at the time. I said I'd stand by and let Elon die if given the chance. Banned.
  • [ADMIN] It will only be for content that is banned for violating our policy. Im intentionally not defining the threshold or timeline. 1. I don't want people attempting to game this somehow. 2. They may change.
    • So does this impact users in r/publicfreakout upvoting a comment that says something like “they deserved that” under a video where someone gets hurt? This really seems like it’ll affect a ton of content in subs like r/instantkarma, or any sub about topics like bad drivers, or any video of someone doing something dangerous or risky, or any comment mentioning Luigi? Punishing people for voting seems like a terrible way to enforce content guidelines. Especially when you don’t want to define the threshold in this post. What percentage of the comments in this post of a nazi getting punched in the face should I not vote on? Anything that supports or justifies him getting punched? Or this post where many or most of the comments are in support of someone fighting back against a bully?
    • Hi. So, you won't tell people the rules but will warn them about breaking the rules, of which they will have no idea why some upvotes did not break the invisible rules, but others did? I am skeptical that you have thought this through in any way whatsoever. If anything this seems like a tailor-made way to chill content you, Reddit, personally disagree with without having to stand by any stated guidelines by which you do it.
    • How can one follow the rules without a full understanding of said rules? This is just a blanket cover to allow you folks to silence anyone you choose.
    • "They may change" yeah, that's not fucking comforting.
    • So you're creating a rule but won't actually explain how the rule works so that people can at least try to properly follow the rule, all because you don't want people to "game it?" Dude, come on. That's stupid as all fuck.
    • Thanks u / worstnerd for being the admin that gets me to leave Reddit.
• Hey, how about you get fucked. [...] If the vast majority of common people support Luigi that's a fundamental societal problem and government problem, not a platform moderation problem.
• This will disproportionately affect the Canadian audience of reddit, as we are being threatened by YOUR government; reddit’s government. How can we discuss enlisting in our Canadian armed forces, or preparing tools to defend our homes, to only be mass flagged by pro-annexation chuds — some of whom I would presume are foreign/non-NOAM instigators? A very dark day for reddit; for a website I feel I have been in a toxic relationship with since 2019-21.

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On PublicFreakout, the sub's moderator shares the admin's message with the note:

"Mind how you are voting because Reddit is about to start spanking folks for votes"

• we shall now punish you for seeing something we showed you. Shame on you.
  • Shit I accidentally liked a rule 34 spez porn. Will I be banned? 
  • I think it’s safest if we don’t engage with anything via comment or upvote any more. It’s what they want.
• I’m gonna upvote whatever the fuck I want. Get bent u / Spez
• Are Luigi gifs still safe?
  • [MOD] Unfortunately they are not.
• Sign up for the Digg reboot while it's still in early access.
  • I came from Digg and back to Digg I go.
• Fuck Spez... And that u / WorstNerd fuck.
• Isn’t this a bit of an overreaction? I read the release, and it didn’t seem too draconian.
  • Yes yes we all know the rules are enforced completely fairly on Reddit at all times.
    • So because rules are sometimes enforced unfairly, there should be no rules?
    • > I don't think anybody is saying that. That seems like something that you made up in your own head
    • >> Indeed. Everything you said was also made up in your head. That is how language and conversations work. /s

At least some users are already receiving warnings:

• So if I upvote a post on this sub that shows a fistfight, I can be banned? Cool cool. Edit: I just got a warning that I am breaking reddit rules with this post. This is wiiiild.
  • [MOD] The fuck? Did you really get a warning? Please modmail us, that is unacceptable.

The PublicFreakout moderator pledges to stand by their users, at least in the case of one frequently reposted video of a Nazi getting punched...

• We are going to keep hosting that Nazi punch video, ya’ll shouldn’t get in trouble for upvoting that (depending on the wording of the title but we remove it when the title can be construed as violating) but yeah the comments.. That’s where the big problem is because we just have such a high volume of comments that we can’t personally see them all as mods and pretty much nobody wants to report comments about punching Nazis. Can’t really blame yall for that but I felt it imperative to let you all know what reddit is up to.

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In r / cincinnati :

• [MOD] Please note - if you get a warning due to this new "feature", it is Reddit, not the mod team taking action. There are no clear guidelines on how this is implemented, probably through the AI tools that never, ever make a mistake.
• I hope Elon Musk has a good time. I hope Donald Trump has a good time. I hope Warren Davidson, Thomas Massie, Mike Dewine, Jim LaRose, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg all have a good time.
• I mean, this was bound to happen with the way Reddit was being used to propagate violent and terroristic rhetoric. All with the complicity of certain subs' mod teams. Do people really think they can encourage doing harm to public officials without the DoJ or corporate players taking notice? It's relatively easy to express your opinions and displeasure without crossing that line. It just takes a little bit of self discipline.

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Several anti Elon Musk subreddits apparently connect this with the recent Reddit drama involving Musk that got WhitePeopleTwitter banned:

Elon gave reddit some attention, now they're changing policies so he doesn't put them on blast again.

Your new president turned his gaze on reddit, now they're changing policies to escape his wrath

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Full list of other subreddits that have shared the admin's post

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Nice thing, someone mentioned Lemmy there: https://old.reddit.com/r/popculture/comments/1j5jngg/rpopculture_is_closed/mgi48zn/

I was also very vocal about my distaste for biden.

I might be more upset if I thought elections would be free or fair. I am actually excited to see the neoliberals take the L in the midterms because they fully deserve it.

Then I'm back to reality and wish people would realize the DNC is a sunk cost and start acting now. No need to wait. There are calls for a strike May 1st. Get ready. The goal isn't to drive a stake into the heart of capitalism but it's to hold out as long as we can and show the government we are united.

People aren't reddit. Reddit is people.

I trust in goodness. So I trust in you.

Also: https://redd.it/1j6es2j

cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/23454161