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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 95 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I 100% guarantee you there are very proper, professional teams of investigators who do prosecute rape thoroughly.

For women with rich dads.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

*white women with rich dads

FTFY

[–] marte@lemmy.eco.br 84 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Same with CSI and... [unpopular opinion] Brooklyn 99.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Brooklyn 99 was a genuinely good comedy

It was also copaganda

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

On the bright side, as far as copaganda goes it is pretty mild.

The cops are portrayed as human, and more often than not as incompetent idiots, the federal agents are almost exclusively portrayed as assholes, they never portray violation of rights or due process as a necessary evil, prison is portrayed as, quote, "real bad", a pseudomasculine bigot gets punched in the face, a racist stop-and-frisker is unequivocally an asshole, the most competent cops eventually get sidelined, punished, or straight up quit in moral protest...

It is copaganda, but by the last season post-COVID and post-Floyd, you can feel the wind completely fall out of their sails. They try to wrap up the story quickly while acknowledging the ongoing horrors, and they do their best to recognize the role they played in romanticizing law enforcement by making it clear that everyone on the squad is disillusioned and disturbed by the system.

Several of them flat out quit, and they have an incredible scene of corruption in action where they make it clear that fixing the NYPD through its own internal buearacracy is literally impossible.

Still copaganda for most of the show's run, and also absolutely a genuinely good comedy.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Much like The West Wing

Edit: not that it's much of a comedy, but it's definitely a fantasy about how the executive branch should work if we had halfway ethical and competent people working there.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Watched it all again last year. Love me some competency porn.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't know. If anything shows how blatantly corrupt cops are, it is that show.

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[–] marte@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don't disagree

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Yeah as much as I love Jake and Amy and Captain Holt, B99 is copaganda. Once I saw it that way, I couldn't watch it anymore.

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[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actual police in small towns are way closer to Reno 911 than Law & Order.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (13 children)
[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've always thought Reno 911 made cops look like incompetent assholes.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've seen reno 911.

Ive also seen true evil where the sheriff rules the town with an iron fist, terrorizing everyone he wants to.

Surprised we don't have more shows like that.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The Rookie is another Copaganda show.

A bunch of cops all nerding out over following the law, ethical treatment of minorities, keeping each other in line, actively forcing out bad cops…

What planet is this?

I really like the cast and the show is fun, but it’s as much fantasy as the Rings Of Power.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

on the other hand, maybe it will inspire people to become cops with morality?
i doubt it… but id rather hand a standard that they’re failing at, at least

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure anyone who becomes a cop to "reform it from the inside" will either be corrupted or pushed out. There've been a couple high profile cases of cops trying to reform, and they were rewarded with prizes like being shot in the head or having dead rats left in their mailboxes.

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[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've got a buddy that worked out of the same precinct the show supposedly takes place in. He obviously can't stand any aspect of the show.

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[–] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The irony with the punisher skull is that he loathed crooked cops, and they’re the ones who love the symbol the most.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 week ago

The new daredevil tv show goes into this

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Cause they know he isn't real

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The one written by a crime historian, with help from a retired homicide detective

Go figure it paints the most realistic picture

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[–] Underwire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

And Homicide. When I started watching it, I was surprised when some episodes ended but the investigation didn't lead to anything and the cops didn't really care.

In The Wire, I really liked when the cop found out the code used by dealers. He started saying "Those kids didn't go to school so the code should be simple..."

[–] seaplant@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 week ago

In Colorado right now, if a survivor goes through the ordeal of a sexual assault evidence exam, the state lab will take 554 days before they get around to analyzing it. (Here's a CPR story about the backlog.)

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The police aren't there to keep you safe, they're there to protect the interests of the oligarchs

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing that always bothered me about law and order shows were that the detectives would easily believe someone’s alibi as fact and just move on. Then you watch a show the first 48 and all they care about is the conviction probability. They don’t care about facts, just what their likelihood of winning in court would be.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Or just who they don’t like/want to see put away. How many times cops focus on one person because they incorrectly assume they’re the guilty person, so they keep them in interrogation for 15hrs, emotionally and physically abuse them, threaten everything they have and their entire life, lie, manipulate, and just completely wear the person down until they falsely confess? It’s a grossly common problem. And then once they’re in the death trap maze that is the legal system, their life is basically ruined. But those cops get a pat on the back and they move on with their lives. While an innocent person rots away

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A guilty pleasure of mine is the bodycam footage channels on YouTube, its surprising how negatively/self-defeating some people react to police interactions. I steer clear of channels that have serious harm to the suspects, shootings and whatnot, but my job has me interact frequently with intoxicated or distressed community members and seeing how they process stressful situations is interesting.

These channels are copaganda but still, somewhat enjoyable and some deescalation techniques police use when employed gently have helped me with setting boundaries in customer interactions. I also feel like learning what not to do when interacting with police is helpful for me if I ever get pulled over, etc. Midwest Safety and Lens of Law are two that are more ethically run and primarily use FOIA requested bodycam footage.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What's really surprising to me is how patient most cops are. I always said I couldn't be a cop because my temper would involve beating dumbshits with a baton.

Look, I hate pigs far more than most of you guys. And I have personal experiences/reasons going back decades. But sometimes watching my wife's cop show I'm screaming, "Just beat his fucking ass!"

Same goes for judges. Spent a night or two watching sovcits in court. Heysus, were I a judge I would bounce them out on their ear the second they starting talking that shit.

In case I get called a boot licker, and I will, here's my latest cop story.

For brevity let's just say I had words with my MAGA neighbor. No threats, well, except for him stomping down the street to kick my ass and me quietly walking inside for my Colt .45. This motherfucker call the cops on me! (First one to call wins. Every. Time. Remember that. I should have called first, but didn't think some yelling would come to that. Fucking MAGA pussy.)

Pigs show up dressed in their finest Hugo Boss black and one fat fuck is trying to get me to talk. I would not, except to state that no threats were exchanged and that's all he needs to know. Pig threatens to get a warrant and arrest me for "causing a public disturbance" if I don't allow him to violate my 5th amendment right to STFU. I STFU, nothing happened, because of course it didn't. Because I STFU.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's your old lady's cop show? My girl is always looking for new trash TV while she works.

Like you, I hate the fucking pigs. Got stories about corrupt sheriffs and gang rape and shit. Fuckem.

Here's a fun one from when I was a kid. Had a '65 Chevy fleet side pickup for my first truck. Worked at a tater farm. Was driving home from work and I got pulled over for the first time. I wasn't even wearing boots, just jeans and a straw hat. Complete redneck, may still have had a mullet.

Cop walks up and tells me, "roll down your window."

"I can't, don't have a handle."

"Open the door."

"I don't have a handle for the door on this side, can you open it?"

Cop opens the door and asks me, little red in the face, "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

"It wasn't for speeding because I can't in this truck."

"You don't have a license plate."

I look at the back glass where it was taped up, and sure enough, it's gone. "Hang on, let me grab it." So I search around in the passenger foot well and find the license plate, duct tape still attached. A Cheetos bag is stuck to it. I hand the assembly to the cop. "Sorry mister, it fell down."

Watch the cop take the license plate, duct tape and Cheeto bag to his car. Could see his shoulders jumping in my rearview, I assume he was laughing his ass off while he radioed that shit in.

Gave me my plate and tape assembly back, told me to fix it, and let me go.

You ever end up in Yankee land, Pittsburgh way, holler at me and we'll take you out to dinner.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cops most likely commit more sexual assault than they prosecute.

Less than 1% of rapes lead to felony convictions.

archive: https://archive.is/8UEja

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Hey! Did you hear about the kid who held the door against a school shooter, got shot a bunch of times, and survived? Yeah, there's a picture of the kid in the hospital with a cop thanking the kid for doing the cop's job. Because, we all know a cop would not have done the same--or even have been in the building.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I strongly dislike cop shows. Never been a fan of the gangster aesthetic. Can sometimes tolerate superhero stuff but it's not really my thing.

I was shocked at how much I enjoyed Gotham.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

a hybrid of copaganda, and military propaganda NCIS. especially the showrunner/writers goes all thirsty though.

criminal minds too, but FBI-ganda. pre-firing of Hotches actor.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

otoh whenever i think of svu i think of ~~barry allen~~ john mulaney doing ice-t being confused about everything

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pretty much every modern law enforcement tv show is copaganda.

Dick Wolf has made bank from it.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some fiction exists to inspire.

Like, we're on a direct path to the Star Trek: TNG post-scarcity civilization, right? With food replicators and transporters and holodecks and so forth.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Check notes: next step world war 3...

Yup, we're right on target.

[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, John Oliver did an entire breakdown on Law & Order on Last Week Tonight. Worth the watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNy6F7ZwX8I

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