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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Capitalists are gonna have a meltdown when we'll have to implement the 4 weeks minimum paid vacation, banked overtime with a yearly limit, bretter minimum wage, tougher regulations on food and environment protection. Etc.

[–] Snowstorm@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yet i can get behind this framework as something good for the population. It’s like a NDP program but more realistic and with economic growth with our peers as a target.

This year (most years) i will vote Liberal but i did vote NDP on and off in the past and my circumscription changes from red to orange often in the last two decades.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm still voting NDP. We can still get a minority liberal government with a strong NDP coalition.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ll probably get called entitled, but even 3 weeks isn’t enough, and I know that’s more than many people get.

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

You're not entitled, your advocating for yourself and others. Work should not be our whole lives.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

You’re being reasonable.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's ridiculous. And 2 days of paid sick days per year? Like wtf

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking worth the extra taxes. The EU isn't perfect, but they're still sane enough to back.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Taxes actually save you money.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Ya, I bet those aren't the people in favour.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

That would be the craziest shit to be honest, but I sure welcome you all!

[–] azi@mander.xyz 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Surprised I had to scroll all the way down here to find it. Was everyone else having a discussion only based on the headline?

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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

We need stronger ally relationships, considering things are going south with our Southern ally!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Being a member of the European Economic Area is a more realistic goal and would probably solve Canada's problems derived from being far too Economically entwinned with their next door neighbour.

Mind you, any form of being part of the EU Single Market (which EEA members are without being EU members) requires a ton of uniformization of things like Product regulations (which amongst other things means Canada would not be allowed to import many if not most US food products such as for example beef of cattle which has been fed hormones) and acceptance of Freedom Of Movement for both people and goods.

(Following Brexit, Britain did not move to become an EEA member exactly because of both the Freedom of Movement requirement and the difficulty in getting other EEA member approval since the UK are a disproportionatelly large economy compared to all EEA members but Canada's reasons are different - not anti-immigration and xenophobia like the UK - so things like Freedom Of Movement would probably not be an issue and its Economy is just a bit over half the size of the UK's)

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is going to be so funny for Britain.

[–] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Why? Most of us want back in.

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

I think EU membership is a huge stretch, but we could certainly move in the direction of harmonizing with EU trade regulations. A good medium-term goal might be to join the Schengen trade zone, and then move on from there.

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I would support stronger ties to Canada, but Canada is not exactly in Europe

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why would that matter? It's a political and economical union, not a geographical one.

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

As the parliament says

In order to apply for EU membership, a country has to be European and respect the EU's democratic values

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20180126STO94113/enlargement-how-do-countries-join-the-eu

Since according to Article 49

The applicant country must [...] be a European state;

https://publications.europa.eu/resource/cellar/0ae670d2-1ece-4994-b1e3-adda39e1c6de.0006.03/DOC_1

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[–] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Canada does share a land boarder with Denmark.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Two! Both sea and land borders with France. Don't forget Vimy Ridge!

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[–] vapourisation@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if we just take Canada and move it over a little?

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thinking outside the ~~box~~ continent. I like it

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Why would this be surprising given the state of things?

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Fuck yeeeah!

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

In 10 years there will be European countries all over the world.

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[–] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I'm not a fan of actions taken in haste but diversifying trading opportunities and providing mutual security really could be beneficial.

[–] engene@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I’m all for closer ties with the EU but it doesn’t make sense to join the union due to simple geography.

[–] orhtej2@eviltoast.org 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Eurovision Song Contest laughs at your petti geography.

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[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Vatican City: could participate but does not.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

If they can get some kind of special status like the UK had it would make sense, simply because there's no tariffs inside EU borders and free travel and probably some other stuff.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think Canada needs the Euro or the Stability and Growth Pact straightjacket. We also don't need European xenophobic attitudes towards immigration.

Let's have a customs union, and let's have closer integration and cooperation, but let's keep our independence.

Signed, a dual citizen.

[–] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

European xenophobic attitudes

You know we're not all like that, right?

And Canada also has far-right nutjobs.

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[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@theacharnian @Sunshine

Yeah works for me.

Membership of the #EU is a long term project with many intermediate steps. Some decided they are fine with a certain step and stay on it(Norway) some decided to get off completley(Iceland) and some decided to get out after they were in(UK). Though I admit brexit was, unnecessarily, bitter the rift is healing and we enjoy good relations with all.

Tough I'd welcome Canada into the union I dont think either side fully grasp how deep and wideranging ascension would be. Regardless I'm perfectly fine with a customs union if thats what #Canada wants.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

I dont think either side fully grasp how deep and wideranging ascension would be

Precisely. Canadians are currently experiencing whiplash from the American betrayal. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with strengthening ties, full fledged EU membership is a whole other rabbit hole that requires sober thought.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, Norway was at 52% Vs 48% back in '94. It's changing, there was a big article on it today on nrk.no, so Norway might become an EU member soon.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stability and Growth Pact

So, here's the Wikipedia on that. It sounds like it's basically a way to make the Euro somewhat functional, which is ironic considering that's the other thing you said to avoid.

I wonder how we'd rank. We have the best fiscal situation in the G7 at the moment.

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