Capitalists are gonna have a meltdown when we'll have to implement the 4 weeks minimum paid vacation, banked overtime with a yearly limit, bretter minimum wage, tougher regulations on food and environment protection. Etc.
this post was submitted on 12 Mar 2025
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Yet i can get behind this framework as something good for the population. Itβs like a NDP program but more realistic and with economic growth with our peers as a target.
This year (most years) i will vote Liberal but i did vote NDP on and off in the past and my circumscription changes from red to orange often in the last two decades.
I'm still voting NDP. We can still get a minority liberal government with a strong NDP coalition.
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Iβll probably get called entitled, but even 3 weeks isnβt enough, and I know thatβs more than many people get.
You're not entitled, your advocating for yourself and others. Work should not be our whole lives.
Youβre being reasonable.
It's ridiculous. And 2 days of paid sick days per year? Like wtf
Fucking worth the extra taxes. The EU isn't perfect, but they're still sane enough to back.
Taxes actually save you money.
Ya, I bet those aren't the people in favour.
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That would be the craziest shit to be honest, but I sure welcome you all!
We need stronger ally relationships, considering things are going south with our Southern ally!
Surprised I had to scroll all the way down here to find it. Was everyone else having a discussion only based on the headline?
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This is going to be so funny for Britain.
Why? Most of us want back in.
Being a member of the European Economic Area is a more realistic goal and would probably solve Canada's problems derived from being far too Economically entwinned with their next door neighbour.
Mind you, any form of being part of the EU Single Market (which EEA members are without being EU members) requires a ton of uniformization of things like Product regulations (which amongst other things means Canada would not be allowed to import many if not most US food products such as for example beef of cattle which has been fed hormones) and acceptance of Freedom Of Movement for both people and goods.
(Following Brexit, Britain did not move to become an EEA member exactly because of both the Freedom of Movement requirement and the difficulty in getting other EEA member approval since the UK are a disproportionatelly large economy compared to all EEA members but Canada's reasons are different - not anti-immigration and xenophobia like the UK - so things like Freedom Of Movement would probably not be an issue and its Economy is just a bit over half the size of the UK's)
I would support stronger ties to Canada, but Canada is not exactly in Europe
Why would that matter? It's a political and economical union, not a geographical one.
As the parliament says
In order to apply for EU membership, a country has to be European and respect the EU's democratic values
Since according to Article 49
The applicant country must [...] be a European state;
https://publications.europa.eu/resource/cellar/0ae670d2-1ece-4994-b1e3-adda39e1c6de.0006.03/DOC_1
Cyprus isn't in Europe at all and is in the EU. You just have to be "substantially" European, according to whatever committee.
Failing that, it's possible to be in the EU in every way but officially. Norway and Switzerland have that situation.
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Canada does share a land boarder with Denmark.
Two! Both sea and land borders with France. Don't forget Vimy Ridge!
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What if we just take Canada and move it over a little?
Thinking outside the ~~box~~ continent. I like it
So are many parts of the Netherlands or France, for example
Local residents are not Europeans, they don't necessarily even use euro despite their mainland countries doing just that, but they are residents of the European Union.
True, but 'being in the EU' is actually not that simple, and these territories have special statuses and and are not part of the 'core EU'. Here is a simple visualization
Fuck yeeeah!
Why would this be surprising given the state of things?
I think EU membership is a huge stretch, but we could certainly move in the direction of harmonizing with EU trade regulations. A good medium-term goal might be to join the Schengen trade zone, and then move on from there.
I don't think Canada needs the Euro or the Stability and Growth Pact straightjacket. We also don't need European xenophobic attitudes towards immigration.
Let's have a customs union, and let's have closer integration and cooperation, but let's keep our independence.
Signed, a dual citizen.
Yeah works for me.
Membership of the #EU is a long term project with many intermediate steps. Some decided they are fine with a certain step and stay on it(Norway) some decided to get off completley(Iceland) and some decided to get out after they were in(UK). Though I admit brexit was, unnecessarily, bitter the rift is healing and we enjoy good relations with all.
Tough I'd welcome Canada into the union I dont think either side fully grasp how deep and wideranging ascension would be. Regardless I'm perfectly fine with a customs union if thats what #Canada wants.
I dont think either side fully grasp how deep and wideranging ascension would be
Precisely. Canadians are currently experiencing whiplash from the American betrayal. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with strengthening ties, full fledged EU membership is a whole other rabbit hole that requires sober thought.
Well, Norway was at 52% Vs 48% back in '94. It's changing, there was a big article on it today on nrk.no, so Norway might become an EU member soon.
European xenophobic attitudes
You know we're not all like that, right?
And Canada also has far-right nutjobs.
Yup. Like I said, I'm a dual citizen, and I've experienced being an immigrant in Canada and it's nowhere near what immigrants back home experience. But of course, Europe also has strong left and left-of-centre traditions. It just so happens that right now, they're mostly on the back foot.
Stability and Growth Pact
So, here's the Wikipedia on that. It sounds like it's basically a way to make the Euro somewhat functional, which is ironic considering that's the other thing you said to avoid.
I wonder how we'd rank. We have the best fiscal situation in the G7 at the moment.
Cmon Eddies!
Iβm all for closer ties with the EU but it doesnβt make sense to join the union due to simple geography.
I'm not a fan of actions taken in haste but diversifying trading opportunities and providing mutual security really could be beneficial.
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