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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would that matter? It's a political and economical union, not a geographical one.

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

As the parliament says

In order to apply for EU membership, a country has to be European and respect the EU's democratic values

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20180126STO94113/enlargement-how-do-countries-join-the-eu

Since according to Article 49

The applicant country must [...] be a European state;

https://publications.europa.eu/resource/cellar/0ae670d2-1ece-4994-b1e3-adda39e1c6de.0006.03/DOC_1

[–] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

respect the EU's democratic values

Just like Hungary does?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

They did when they got in.

The problem is that it's impossible to kick out a member if they stop respecting the EU's democratic values whilst being a member.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Cyprus isn't in Europe at all and is in the EU. You just have to be "substantially" European, according to whatever committee.

Failing that, it's possible to be in the EU in every way but officially. Norway and Switzerland have that situation.

[–] Pixelnator@pawb.social 1 points 16 hours ago

As mentioned in the post above, what constitutes as European is decided by the European Council and European Commission. You are correct in that it is a requirement but there is nothing stopping them from going "Canada is European, as it shares our values, ideals, and ideologies". The decision does not have to be geographical.

It's unlikely and kind of a "the rules don't say a dog can't play basketball" type move but it's technically valid.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's literally one of their requirements.

[–] Pixelnator@pawb.social 3 points 16 hours ago

The definition of what classifies as European is up to the assessment of the European Council and the European Commission and need not be defined by geography.

III. CONDITIONS OF ACCESSION a) The European State

The sole material condition laid down by Article O of the TEU is that the applicant must be a 'European State'. There is no unequivocal interpretation of that criterion. It can be read equally well in geographical, cultural or political terms.

In 1987 an application to become a Member of the Communities was received from Morocco. The application was rejected by the Council on the grounds that Morocco was not a European State ( 7). In the case of Turkey, Article 28 of the Association Agreement signed in 1963 incudes the option of Turkey's eventually acceding to the Communities. Turkey in fact lodged an application to accede on 14 April 1987. Historically, Turkey has formed part of the so-called 'European concert'. Although part of Turkey's territory is located geographically in Asia, Parliament, the Council and the Commission have confirmed Turkey's eligibility ( 8). This example shows that the term 'European State' need not be interpreted in a strictly geographical sense. It is at all events a criterion subject to political assessment.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/enlargement/briefings/23a2_en.htm

In other words if we decide that Canada counts, then Canada counts.

[–] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe not right now but requirements can be changed, especially in times of need.