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[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 121 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's important to remember that Jones is a grifter first and foremost. He has never sincerely cared about anything in his life beyond his own enrichment, and I don't think this is a sign of him starting now. That said, I think it may still be significant that even hardcore grifters like Jones and Fuentes are starting to publicly speak against Trump. Grifters are always going to follow the money, so if Trump's ship is sinking so fast that even Alex Jones sees it to be more profitable to start to move away from him, maybe the MAGA cult of personality really is starting to finally fall apart...

Granted, that's all speculation, and Trump has managed to defy every previous prediction of the fall of his influence, so I don't want to jump to any conclusions here, but after the Canadian elections, I feel like I have a bit more reason to afford myself a little optimism for the future...

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cults follow a life-cycle of explosive growth. Then once they reach a certain threshold, they slow. And either they become something like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, where they face slow growth/decline, close to equalibrium, or they begin collapsing in grotesquely spectacular fashion like Heaven's Gate and Jone's Town.

MAGA is falling into this latter category, in which the cult grows desperate as it loses members and clamps down harder, making ever-higher demands, making more members nope out, locking the cult into a vicious cycle of free-falling desperation. This is good.

What is not good is that the precedent set is Heaven's Gate and Jone's Town, both of which did something absolutely tragic and evil, and MAGA has great political power right now. They will absolutely be doing something truly and historically evil on the way out, and we need to be prepared.

[–] WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sad but this is likely what we'll see. This is why you need to let them cut off their noses, so they can start turning on each other. It's not what you want to see, but interfering only gives them new targets to try placing blame on.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 3 days ago

MAGA is feeling the Brexit vibe now.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 101 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I hate this timeline but it's absolutely beautiful to me that Trump is going to send Alex Jones and Joe Rogan to concentration camps

[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nah, Joe just becomes Barons pet.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 12 points 4 days ago

“Wow, that’s crazy”

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 65 points 4 days ago

Who cares fuck you Alex Jones

[–] kbal@fedia.io 58 points 4 days ago

Stop, you've gone too far. Also you've gone the wrong way. And your driving is terrible. And you're drunk on power. Why did I even get in this clown car.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago

...alright, sticky this one and lock the community. There will never be a more 'not the onion' article. We have peaked.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 47 points 4 days ago

you created him you round lead filled idiot

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] xoggy@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago

And the money was going to give Sandy Hook victims higher compensation iirc.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Reminded of Rush Limbaugh going on a week long rage over "having to carry water for John McCain", after dude was doing acrobatics to suck Lil' John's dick in the run up to the election. But after day seven, he was right back on that hog, because that's what a guy like Limbaugh is paid to do.

I suspect Jones will fall into his late Bush-Era generic conspiracy-laden libertarian skeptic persona until Trump can find a way to get poll numbers back up near parity again. Dude's a coward who will move wherever the political winds blow him.

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I suspect Jones will fall into his late Bush-Era generic conspiracy-laden libertarian skeptic persona until Trump can find a way to get poll numbers back up near parity again.

He is licking a lot of Elmo boot at the moment so he might pivot to more of that.

Jones sacrificed too much of his integrity, in the hope that people will mistake his vicinity to power with wielding actual power, to pivot hard back to his old persona. I don't think the real libertarian types will forget Jones's enthusiasm for a police state, as long as 'his guy's is the one in power.

On the other hand that would require critical thinking skills and some level of integrity and most people in those circles lack at least one of those.

Edit: I've been waiting for his buyer's remorse to kick in since at least 2017 so this is tasty as fuck.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jones sacrificed too much of his integrity,

You have to have integrity to sacrifice it.

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

I mean in the perception of his listeners of course. I phrased it weird.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, he's a self described incel. I don't think anyone is blowing him.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Self described incel??? He calls HIMSELF that??? Wow....I kind of always assumed he had just the worst toxic shitty horrible wife.

At least he's honest, and self aware.....I guess.

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[–] analoghobbyist@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't give a fuck what Alex Jones thinks.

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[–] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dear media, please feel free to let me know when jones dies. Other than that, shut the fuck up about him. Sincerely, me.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The media is desperate to look unbiased, but they don't want to look unbiased by being unbiased and fairly reporting on Trump.. So they report shit like this, so they can create the false appearance of unbiasedness while making sure most/all of trumps infantile retaliation will end up directed towards the subject (in this case, Alex Jones)

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 days ago

I don't care if he's right, fuck that guy in the ear with a spoon

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

I think he should pay his victims.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago

Just don't call him late for dinner.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alex Jones is a boil on a hemorrhoid in a cancer riddled colon spewing santorum laden diarrhea

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Alex Jones, the man who denied the school shooting Alex Jones? The Alex Jones that was sued and lost and bankrupted Alex Jones,

The Alex Jones that deserves to be in an unmonitored room with the parents of the dead children Alex Jones?

Well then, if he thinks Trumps gone too far it must be true.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, no. Not an unmonitored room. I want cameras in that room, and to stream it in ppv.

Also, the parents are allowed to bring non-gun weapons into the room.

I'd make popcorn!

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Degrease it and throw it in a gross looking pond for a bit first. The rust and weird slime growing on it will do wonders for anti vaxxers.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Cue threats by Trump's flying monkeys to have Jones deported.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Good catch. Fixed.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago

🤔 His extremist and conspiracy theory platform helped create the political landscape where trump won. Whatever his reasons now, he deserves to go down with the ship.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For those wondering where he finally draws the line with Trump, it's Trump's statements about deporting citizens to El Salvador.

Tap for full context (from the article)FUENTES:  You have…1,500 people with a legal right to be here, they’re being expedited — their removal is being expedited for no reason other than they criticize the fact that, you know, we’re supporting this foreign war [Fuentes seems to be referencing the Gaza conflict].

JONES: Here’s where I’m at, though. In general, I see the whole, a lot of the populist conservative space spending half their time on this, and I just, I mean, I think it’s way more dangerous Trump saying we’re looking to deporting citizens to El Salvador. Now, that’s unconstitutional, and that is really bad.

FUENTES: I agree with that. Then again though, I don’t think that’s a real policy. That hasn’t happened. What is really happening —

JONES: Now they’re talking about using the Enemy Combatant Act to do it for regular crime. It’s —

FUENTES: I don’t, I think that’s one of those throwaway comments.

JONES: So you think it’s him trolling?

FUENTES: I think they’re flooding the zone with poo like Bannon said.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Deporting citizens to El Salvador for criticizing Israel. Which Nick dislikes only because he is a literal neonazi who wants a "holy war" against Jews.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Well obviously Fuentes thinks the Trump admin has gone too far. Trump is deporting people for being critical of Israel, and Fuentes really fucking hates Jews. He hates Muslims too, but he hates Jews waaaay more.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Jones should self-immolate as a protest.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

And the peripheral grift continues

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago

Too late, he’s now in power and you can’t control him… you never could, but it was nice to pretend last time around, wasn’t it, Alex?

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

My initial response: "Haha, no one could possibly eat this onion."

My reaction after double-checking which community this was in: "..."

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How long until democrats are campaigning with him

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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago
[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

We honestly need a !notnotnottheonion now...

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've met mosquitoes with better ethics than Alex Jones

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Stop, oh no, I helped this monster grow into something we can't control. Don't do it. Anyways..

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

“Alex Jones thinks…” LIES!

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

That's a crazy headline.

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