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Title is a little sensational but this is a cool project for non-technical folks who may need a mini-internet or data archive for a wide variety of reasons:

"PrepperDisk is a mini internet box that comes preloaded with offline backups of Wikipedia, street maps, survivalist information, 90,000 WikiHow guides, iFixit repair guides, government website backups (including FEMA guides and National Institutes of Health backups), TED Talks about farming and survivalism, 60,000 ebooks and various other content. It’s part external hard drive, part local hotspot antenna—the box runs on a Raspberry Pi that allows up to 20 devices to connect to it over wifi or wired connections, and can store and run additional content that users store on it. It doesn't store a lot of content (either 256GB or 512GB), but what makes it different from buying any external hard drive is that it comes preloaded with content for the apocalypse."

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[–] ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 143 points 1 day ago (9 children)

My problem with preppers is the over estimating on whether they’ll be in a position that these skills will have any effect, and the under valuing on steps we could just take to not have this future in the first place.

Like, you’ll need a farm right off the bat, or your first steps in any guider are how to violently take somebody else’s land. Followed by step two, keeping that land from other humans who don’t want to die.

Instead of prepping, become nomadic scroungers or live in a fricking farming commune in the first place. Basically descend a couple levels of societal development and you’ll already be self sufficient and ready. Like the Amish.

Or, you know, voting for politicians who listen to scientists.

Anything beyond being self sufficient for a month is overkill in my opinion.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love seeing all the tacticool "operators" with their tricked out ARs, bulletproof vests and helmets, flexicuffs, and other shit but look like they get gassed slowly ascending the stairs from their mother's basement. Rule #1 in the zombie apocalypse is Cardio.

Also society isn't going to collapse overnight. If it does it will be a slow crawl until going full Gravy Seal is warranted. They need to survive until then.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also society isn’t going to collapse overnight.

Not if it goes down like you expect it to.

In my experience, the real problems are the ones you weren't planning for.

Even if we don't end up nuking each other like we thought we would in the 60s-90s, we could still get a massive asteroid / comet strike with less than a week's notice. That innocent looking star 23 light years away could have collapsed 22.99 years ago and zap us with a gamma ray burst next week.

More likely: something we don't even know about comes along and makes life far more challenging than it has been for 100,000 years.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Humans are very bad at intuitively grasping very large and very small numbers, and that includes very small probabilities. The odds of a civilization-ending asteroid or comet hitting Earth in the next century is minuscule. Especially with the "not seeing it until it's a week away" condition, we've come a very long way when it comes to mapping near-Earth asteroids and there just aren't any places for them to hide any more. Especially not once Vera C. Rubin goes online.

That innocent looking star 23 light years away could have collapsed 22.99 years ago and zap us with a gamma ray burst next week.

A star that's capable of producing a gamma ray burst is not "innocent-looking", it's actually very obvious. There are none that are that close to us. They'd also need to have a very precisely aimed axis to hit us, gamma ray bursts look so bright in part because their "beam" is so narrow.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you're overlooking a more likely (and more reasonable) approach preppers take; become skilled in various survival-oriented skills and then if things go south you can go to one of those farms and offer to help out in exchange for some of the food. The lone rambo raider types aren't going to last long, humans are social animals that do best in tribes and for the most part want to form tribes.

Preemptively apocalypsing yourself by forcing yourself to live in some sort of self-sufficient compound right now isn't reasonable for most people, but having some plans and resources in your back pocket in case of disaster is not at all unreasonable.

If nothing else, it makes camping more fun and lets you ride out a power outage or local disaster in style.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The overlap between climate crisis deniers and preppers is so large it‘s truly baffling. If you ask me most of them are just hobbyists who act a little too seriously about their little passion. It‘s a lot of make believe and very little obtaining practical skills.

[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I went down the rabbit hole on YouTube a bit and man, a lot of them seem to want the shit to hit the fan. These are people who absolutely lay down to go to sleep at night and fantasize about getting to bug out.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These are people who absolutely lay down to go to sleep at night and fantasize about getting to bug out.

In other words, they correctly realize that society as it exists sucks, but are too deep into right-wing propaganda to consider that less drastic measures than a collapse (such as voting for socialist policies) could fix it.

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

the under valuing on steps we could just take to not have this future in the first place.

They feel helpless to change the current course of events, and they're not far wrong as individuals.

What they also underestimate is how quickly they're gonna die when somebody decides they should after TSHTF. All the prepping in the world isn't gonna make living after a 20MT strike 20 miles away any fun at all. Living out in the boonies growing your own food? Whatever arsenal you have to protect it, all it takes is a band of yahoos with twice your numbers and firepower and your toast becomes their toast.

live in a fricking farming commune in the first place

Surprisingly difficult to do... we had a farming commune as neighbors for a couple of years, they never did reach food self sufficiency with 80 acres of fertile land and 16 people to work it. The Amish come close to making it work, but any Amish I have ever gotten to know tend to cheat, a lot.

Or, you know, voting for politicians who listen to scientists.

Yeah, they trust the "scientists" even less than you trust their politicians - and they're not 100% wrong, just mostly wrong.

Don't get me wrong: true science is the way to make progress, and we have built a lot on science in the past 200 years or so, but we have also got a lot of bought and paid for business tools running around in lab coats fooling the science community that they are just like them.

Anything beyond being self sufficient for a month is overkill in my opinion.

Disasters of my lifetime have been hurricanes. If you can hunker down for the storm and retain your ability to drive out of the devastation zone after the roads are cleared (usually in a couple of days), you're good. Keep enough gas to run the generators until you can get more gas, keep enough food to last until you can get to a source of more. I've never had to abandon home, even with some pretty hard direct hits, but when it's bad enough that's what you do. Go somewhere that hasn't been whacked.

If we politically screw up the whole planet, that's harder to prep for than a mild nuclear winter.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 13 hours ago

Most preppers are of the "fuck society, I am the most important part of it" mentality, whether they're aware of it or not.

When shit hits the fan and the urban civilizations collapse, it's the old nomads that'll survive (if they haven't been killed off entirely by then)

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.prepperdisk.com/pages/how-does-it-work

Would be nice if they'd offer downloads for the disk image. Or at least sell the disk image since I don't need yet another Pi lol.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Go get it directly from Kiwix

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kiwix is awesome. Many many years ago we made a sharepx from all of Gutenbergs library and creative commons works. We also added public maps.

Less end of the world, more entertainment and helping out the community.

There are also pirate boxes that do the same with not so free resources. And they work offline for hundreds of devices.

[–] Moose@moose.best 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah Kiwix is great for this, I just put together what this company is essentially selling for free by myself a few months ago. In fact I would be surprised if this company wasn't using Kiwix as most of the resources they listed are on it already.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ooh. As a hobbyist "mostly for funzies" prepper I was mildly interested. But then I clicked around their site a bit and I found preorders for a version of the prepper disk with an LLM chatbot "companion.". Assuming the LLM is using RAG on the library of source documents and isn't just relying on its training, that's really neat. I know people will exclaim "hallucination!", but in a situation where you literally have no idea what to do, no way to get help, and the alternative is lying down and dying, I could see this being really handy. Often the hardest part of having a giant archive of information is how to find what you need out of it and interpret what it's telling you.

I'd rather use an "open" version of this, though. Prepper Disk's website sounds like they're trying to keep their data at least partially locked down, and while I can understand that they want to recoup the cost of the effort they put into setting this up it kind of goes against the grain of prepping to rely on something that you can't repair or modify yourself.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Has room for a porn folder too right?

Seems like an amateur apocalyptic preparation oversight that it wasn't included already.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just check under homework.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My documents/faxes/saved faxes/Trash/receipts/

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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Anybody know where to find an archive of this disk?

It's all publicly available info, or was. I've got a Raid 5 I can throw it on, might come in handy during power outs and such.

I've got spare hard drives, and an old Pi and other computers around. No need to spend $189 on this when you can pretty easily DIY. The value is the prepackaged archive.

I see projects like kwix and such, but I don't immediately see this archive or anything comparable. Haven't looked into this before.

BTW, if you're actually worried about the end of the world or whatever, this won't save you. Make friends with your neighbors and communities. If you don't have a physical trade, you need to learn one like fixing shit or growing really good weed.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Kiwix.org

Download the App, and you can then download a full backup of Wikipedia, PHP Manuals, the "Survival Library", Ted Talks, FEMA guides, etc.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So I can easily get pretty much all of this through kwix directly? That will work. Throw it on my Raid. My media server is badly overworked but I should be able to use any old sbc as a frontend for the archive.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I considered the cost of the hardware and the time I would spend getting it all configured, then collecting the content from various sources.

Ultimately decided that $189 was worth it. I already have too many WIPs and something like this has been sitting on my ToDo list for years already, this is a great shortcut

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 hours ago

I love this idea. I couldn't help but think of the innernette though.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe I should just use these and cancel my internet

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 29 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I remember when offline backups that were unaffected by EMP were everywhere.

They called them books.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"And this here is my Wikipedia room."

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And over there is my pornography stadium

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 37 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer to call it the masterbatorium.

[–] Acid_Burn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 21 hours ago

It's a little off the beaten path.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Yeah okay, carry that amount of information in your go bag via physical books.

Hope you have a microscope.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Neat. I get the archived sites and docs as pretty useful and a good way to keep info that might be redacted or manipulated by a fascist government, but I gotta question the use of this technological medium to save information as useful during a “doomsday” situation.

If you’re in an actual doomsday situation, that means odds are utilities like water and power are intermittent or nonexistent, this box will be useless unless you have already spent the time and effort to install and maintain an off-grid power solution to use this device.

So essentially a gimmick. However, I can’t argue with the preservation of knowledge in an effort to reference it when bad actors change what is publicly available.

E: I think people are missing my point. I said you’d need to be prepared to use this device in a doomsday situation, as in, “already spent the time and effort to install and maintain an off-grid power solution…”

But for some reason people are telling me “well if you’ve already got a power setup…” when I stated not having the means to utilize this device it’s pointless. Telling me what I already said? C’mon, people. No need to reiterste my solutions and contradict conditions I stated to make yourself right.

You’d also already have to have all the tools, seeds, plants, material, equipment and supplies to make or farm and a community to implement the knowledge saved on the device. Maintaining the trappings of civilization in a doomsday situation is all but impossible solo, and a shitload of work for a community. You don’t put this box in a closet and when the power goes out permanently and your gas generator kicks on you decide it’s time to learn how to survive. IOW it’s useless unless you’re already prepped.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Solar generators exist, and are relatively inexpensive for smaller units.

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[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

As someone who is generally on the more prepared side, the use case for most stuff falls far short of "doomsday". There is a ton to be said about things that are just generally useful in adverse situations. I've lived through a dozen or so storms that took out power for a few days (longest I think was 2 weeks). It's usually not a complete blackout everywhere.

Point being: I can see it being useful to have a bunch of info in something easily portable to say, double check breaker wiring helping your friend fix some stuff after the storm. Look up the emergency AM/CB/NOAA radio freqs. I have a lot of the resources on this thing on a server, but that's not mobile and would eat a lot of power just booting up. To package it nicely in a form factor like this would probably run me just about $189.

But the overall point is I think this falls on the extreme end of practical preparedness but I can absolutely see the use. Honestly the most practical thing on there are the books. Again, usually if a community gets hit bad you wind up with people that have power having a bunch of people stay over. Being able to allow multiple people stuff to read would help kill time.

All of that being said, its a distant second to the critical items that, again, have a huge range of uses: A solid first aide kit, 2 weeks of food (even if it's not awesome). I realize that's a luxury for a lot of people, but money is much better spent there first.

Strayed off topic a bit, but it's because while I don't think it makes a lot of sense to plan for SHTF scenarios, I do think we're going to see a general decay (but not elimination) of public services/utilities and an increasingly pissy climate. I think it's important for people to not fall into the bunker-prepper fantasy OR write off being more prepared than they're accustomed to.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 15 hours ago

Wouldn't something like this be potentially quite useful if you live in an area that could easily see a natural disaster that results in weeks without a connection to the outside world? Sure you could build a raspberry pi to do it yourself but not everyone is capable of doing that and its also a low power consumption device which is useful to keep your backup power going longer, ideally through a battery as a generator normally doesn't do very low wattage efficiently. Solar is variable and lower power demands means you can go smaller, or helps keep it more reliable.

I find prepper stuff has a fine line between reasonable preparation for something that may well happen and then you get into the crazies that think the world is ending and they are actually going to achieve anything in such a situation beyond dying alone.

As I live in the UK the most likely disaster is a couple cm of snow which will break most infrastructure, shops will run out of things like milk and bread for days. This happened a few years ago, I had to resort to making tortillas instead for my lunch.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it also hardened against EPM's?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

EMPs are overrated by Hollywood, who like to show sparks and electrical arcs and robots exploding and whatnot. In reality EMPs are mainly a threat to the power grid, because they operate by inducing an electrical current in a conductor and the longer the conductor is the more powerful the induced current is. Power transmission lines are thousands of kilometers long, they'll build up fearsome currents and fry stuff plugged into them (assuming circuit breakers and fuses don't manage to protect it). But a device like this has wires a few centimeters long, so they don't pick up nearly as much as long as they're not plugged in. They're more delicate, sure, but I like my odds.

An EMP can also be shielded against by a wrapping of tinfoil, as mentioned below. As long as there aren't large gaps (no, tinfoil hats don't work) it acts as a simple farraday cage. So if you really want extra protection keep this in a metal box. Assuming its case isn't metallic to begin with.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wrap em in foil. Boom protected. But kinda moot if there's no power.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Make sure to etch your foil with how to rig up solar cells for power.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Fear = Profit!

Would you like to know more?

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, but won't you need enough electricity to power a monitor, keyboard, and mouse for this to work?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (12 children)

That doesn't take much power, a solar panel or two should be more than sufficient, or you can rig something up w/ a defunct ebike (just run the motor backwards to generate electricity).

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Looks super cool wish there was a version with more storage. 256/512gb is on the low side for end of the world

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[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

This is just an ad for that device. Title made it sound like there's a run on storage devices.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

I was hoping it would be one of those drives built to last hundreds of years. Oh well.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What kind of storage do they use? Because SSDs left unpowered will lose data.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Not sure if this is allowed, but I had to see if this was true, and also if it was expensive- it isn’t!

(I do not work for, or with anything involved in this)

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