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I think esports are real sports not because I think video games are as meaningful as physical sports, but because I think physical sports are as meaningless as video games. It's all just playing with toys.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to sink a few more hours into that new Katamari hotness.
My name is not Micheal 🤔
Hi not Michael
Hi maybe Michael
Hi Michael(?)
Hello everyone. Although I prefer Mike, my given name is Michael.
It would be weird if it were, I've never met a Micheal before.
Esports ruined gaming, change my mind (impossible)
I'll bite. If you want to pick a singular thing to point at and say it's ruined gaming you should be more upset about micro transactions, especially those in mobile gaming. We live in an era where so many people have a device that is physically more capable than the handheld gaming devices of the past but the entire mobile gaming market is just slop meant to be addictive and extract as much money from you as possible. Imagine a world where Nintendo was making mainline Pokémon games for phones. What if X, Y, Sun, and Moon weren't made for the 3ds but for phones (or both).
You're not wrong. Microtransactions ruined gaming, too. :P
Dark patterns too.
Honestly, in a way, (ubiquitous fast) internet ruined gaming. When you had to buy physical disks, there was no way to continuously monetize a game. Studios had to make new good games and they did.
Back then, there were awesome games for phones as well. I still have an old phone with just to keep galaxy on fire 2. N.O.V.A. 2 was basically Halo game on phones. Before that, there was awesome java games for dumb phones.
You can argue that enabled bad practices but it also enabled many good things in gaming.
Yes.
I think you’re right, but I’d say it goes wider. Things like Steam sales and Game Pass subscriptions also has favored a bunch of shovelware indie titles and AAAA games: either a game is cheap enough to make the cut/be catalog fodder or it has to be monstrous in scope
Now that's a WILD take.
Balatro Hades & Hades II Dead Cells Astro Bot Hollow Knight & Silksong Stardew Valley
Plenty of evidence of mid-budget games that are hugely successful. “Indie” is now a pretty large and unhelpful term. Supergiant is a fairly large company, not just “a single guy” like in the case of Stardew Valley. Even Concerned Ape hired on a team for ongoing support and ports for Stardew. And Team Cherry may be small, but also not actually just 2 people like is the common understanding. And Astro Bot may be made by a fairly large studio owned by the biggest console platform owner but you couldn’t seriously call last year’s GOTY a “quadruple A game”. Hell, even Triple is generous.
I get the malaise and disappointment around the top 5 games all being like a decade old live service games that all make up ,ore than like 80% of the industry’s play time and revenue, but I’m pretty sure LocalThunk is feeling pretty good about their success right now. There are plenty of really great games that are not just bargain bin junk while also not being massive industry stompers like Fortnite.
So yeah, that was a WILD take.
You provide physical inputs, which are sensitive to timing and agility, to a rule-based competition. It's at least as much a sport as golf or curling or bowling. And I say that as someone who doesn't find eSports particularly compelling. It requires a sophisticated technal infrastructure and doesn't require superhuman levels of strength or endurance (though the latter in particular could be helpful), but those are merely "sliders on the configuration screen" for whether a certain sport is to your interest.
Michael probably agrees.
Clearly you are a Gamer
Huh. Not much a part of my identity these days, but in a yes/no sense, yeah I guess so, LOL. Of course, these days most gym bros are doing some gaming too.
I meant based on the limited data we have in the comic. If you believe gamings a sport: gamer, I'd not: not a gamer if Michael: Michael
LOL, are you trying to keep me from derailing a shitpost thread where I'm rehashing the boring online debate that inspired it! How dare you!!!!! What are you? Some kind of Michael?
HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!!
Are they being targeted?
If chess is part of the olympics then videogames should be too
The Olympics shouldn't exist as they are now in the first place.
It should go back to the original 5 or 7 events. Including the running in hoplite armour, and triple jumps with weights.
And the naked part?
That should just go without saying. No female athletes, just oiled up twinks and gym bros frolicking in a field naked for weeks. /S
And winners from Athens get free dinners for life
My rule for considering it a sport is: anyone should be able to play it if they have everything needed. It's impossible to be banned from a sport (banned from tournaments is not the same thing) - if you want to play, you play. If you want to make custom rules just for you and your friends, you make them and then play. Nobody can own the rights to a sport (again, not the same as that sport's tournament). No company can ever stop others from making money with a specific sport.
If you have any kind of ball you can play soccer. If you have anything that can represent chess pieces, you can play chess. If you have a kart you can have a race...
So can videogames be considered sport? Perhaps some can, but anything that requires access to a specific company's private servers is out of the question. I'm not even gonna argue that the game should be open source, but at the very least it should have a way for anyone to spin up their own server for it.
I don't much like the idea because video games are company driven. Like Apex exists only because of EA so its an advertising platform for EA. Unlike sports like basketball or tennis a video game like Apex or CS can't exist independent of the company that owns it.
Even playing it you are reliant on their servers unlike basketball where you can play it at a random park without the permission of EA allowing access. Different companies can start leagues for sports like basketball, but nobody really owns or controls who can play the sport.
Maybe if some open source truly community run game was chosen.
Hmm. I'm all three.
THE CHOSEN ONE
Gymer Bro Michael
They would be sport if they were something like Chessboxing.
Yeahhhh let's go Most Common Boy's Name in the Year I Was Born 🤘
Right? There is almost always another Michael nearby.
I agree with the two guys on the right.
