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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think esports are real sports not because I think video games are as meaningful as physical sports, but because I think physical sports are as meaningless as video games. It's all just playing with toys.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to sink a few more hours into that new Katamari hotness.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My name is not Micheal 🤔

[–] exu@feditown.com 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Hello everyone. Although I prefer Mike, my given name is Michael.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It would be weird if it were, I've never met a Micheal before.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Esports ruined gaming, change my mind (impossible)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 27 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'll bite. If you want to pick a singular thing to point at and say it's ruined gaming you should be more upset about micro transactions, especially those in mobile gaming. We live in an era where so many people have a device that is physically more capable than the handheld gaming devices of the past but the entire mobile gaming market is just slop meant to be addictive and extract as much money from you as possible. Imagine a world where Nintendo was making mainline Pokémon games for phones. What if X, Y, Sun, and Moon weren't made for the 3ds but for phones (or both).

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Microtransactions ruined gaming, too. :P

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Dark patterns too.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly, in a way, (ubiquitous fast) internet ruined gaming. When you had to buy physical disks, there was no way to continuously monetize a game. Studios had to make new good games and they did.

Back then, there were awesome games for phones as well. I still have an old phone with just to keep galaxy on fire 2. N.O.V.A. 2 was basically Halo game on phones. Before that, there was awesome java games for dumb phones.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can argue that enabled bad practices but it also enabled many good things in gaming.

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You provide physical inputs, which are sensitive to timing and agility, to a rule-based competition. It's at least as much a sport as golf or curling or bowling. And I say that as someone who doesn't find eSports particularly compelling. It requires a sophisticated technal infrastructure and doesn't require superhuman levels of strength or endurance (though the latter in particular could be helpful), but those are merely "sliders on the configuration screen" for whether a certain sport is to your interest.

Michael probably agrees.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh. Not much a part of my identity these days, but in a yes/no sense, yeah I guess so, LOL. Of course, these days most gym bros are doing some gaming too.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I meant based on the limited data we have in the comic. If you believe gamings a sport: gamer, I'd not: not a gamer if Michael: Michael

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

LOL, are you trying to keep me from derailing a shitpost thread where I'm rehashing the boring online debate that inspired it! How dare you!!!!! What are you? Some kind of Michael?

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!!

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Are they being targeted?

[–] Chiarottide@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If chess is part of the olympics then videogames should be too

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Olympics shouldn't exist as they are now in the first place.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It should go back to the original 5 or 7 events. Including the running in hoplite armour, and triple jumps with weights.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Gotta be wearing a kynodesme to be modest.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That should just go without saying. No female athletes, just oiled up twinks and gym bros frolicking in a field naked for weeks. /S

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And winners from Athens get free dinners for life

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

My rule for considering it a sport is: anyone should be able to play it if they have everything needed. It's impossible to be banned from a sport (banned from tournaments is not the same thing) - if you want to play, you play. If you want to make custom rules just for you and your friends, you make them and then play. Nobody can own the rights to a sport (again, not the same as that sport's tournament). No company can ever stop others from making money with a specific sport.

If you have any kind of ball you can play soccer. If you have anything that can represent chess pieces, you can play chess. If you have a kart you can have a race...

So can videogames be considered sport? Perhaps some can, but anything that requires access to a specific company's private servers is out of the question. I'm not even gonna argue that the game should be open source, but at the very least it should have a way for anyone to spin up their own server for it.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't much like the idea because video games are company driven. Like Apex exists only because of EA so its an advertising platform for EA. Unlike sports like basketball or tennis a video game like Apex or CS can't exist independent of the company that owns it.

Even playing it you are reliant on their servers unlike basketball where you can play it at a random park without the permission of EA allowing access. Different companies can start leagues for sports like basketball, but nobody really owns or controls who can play the sport.

Maybe if some open source truly community run game was chosen.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My name is also Michael. Hi Michael. Nice name.

[–] spongebollocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hi michael. i'm also michael. wanna get married, adopt a kid and name them michael?

[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hi Michaels. I'm also Michael.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Let's form a Michael thruple, adopt thousands of children named Michael, and kill everyone that refuses to change their names to Michael.

[–] miked@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Let’s form a Michale triple

Who is this Michale you speak of? They must be eliminated.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

THE CHOSEN ONE

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Gymer Bro Michael

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

They would be sport if they were something like Chessboxing.

[–] CelloMike@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeahhhh let's go Most Common Boy's Name in the Year I Was Born 🤘

[–] miked@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Right? There is almost always another Michael nearby.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I agree with the two guys on the right.

Meta comment: Why would a simple semantic disagreement/misunderstanding cause this much friction? Because it's not about semantics, but about hurt feelings and pecking order.

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