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Two psychologists are warning that President Donald Trump’s frequent confusion and mounting physical issues may be pointing to something more troubling than just aging. On their podcast Shrinking Trump, psychologists John Gartner and Harry Segal argued that the 79-year-old president is showing both physical and linguistic symptoms of what they call “early dementia.”

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[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not even our first Republican president to get carried through his second term with the onset of dementia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-president-son

The GOP president was always a mouthpiece anyway.

It's why I try to talk about the Heritage Foundation policies instead of Trump. It's a lot of rich assholes, not old white crazy guys with mob-boss style speaking.

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[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, he’s already seven years past the average lifespan here in the US.

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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Early dementia refers to the progression of the disease, he’s unlikely to die from it during this term.

As opposed to early onset dementia which is when a younger person than usual is diagnosed.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Early as in the stage/symptoms, not "early on-set".

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OK but he's been showing symptoms for years.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

Listen to interviews of him in the 80s, 2000s, and 2016. His vocabulary and coherence had dropped significantly before his first term. It hasn't gotten better.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He was mentally unfit long before signs of aging and dementia started appearing. His supporter base will remain in denial about it for as long as he has a pulse.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm betting on longer. They'll worship him for another 100 years.

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 52 points 1 day ago

Oh, I dare say he's been demented for quite some time now. It all started when he was regrettably born, and then it went downhill from there.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 46 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

...we can assess his brain for abnormalities during autopsy. For now let's just treat him as what he is currently: a domestic enemy to the US and its constitution, a rapist, and a pedophile, among other things.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Add murder to the list. Having Epstein killed in his cell is likely, but is obviously impossible to nail down at this point.

He has however bragged about bombing those Venezuelan fishermen on his order.

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

And this will matter fuck all.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Sleepy Don! That’s what everyone calls him folks. He’s low energy and old. So old. I remember when my dog was old like that. Kristi Noem said to me “just shoot him, take him out back and shoot him” and I did. Just like that! Bang! No more sleepy useless old dog. And lots of people said it was a good thing, including my good friend Jeff.

[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 20 hours ago

... and Erdogan has cancer, Putin is seriously ill and the Russian economy is about to collapse any day now ...

Instead of wishful thinking, protest, resist, and challenge authoritarianism in every way possible.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 7 points 14 hours ago

Yeah.... As someone who has a lot of geriatric patients, even elderly people in good health can regularly doze off during certain parts of the day. Not sure how anyone could claim any cognitive decline at his age and weight could be considered early onset.

Tbh he is doing fairly well for his weight at that age, meaning he's still alive. Which is baseline better than most 80 year old overweight and inactive men.

Imo I think he had a little stroke when he went up to Alaska to meet Putin. I think that's why all his staff looked scared as shit during that trip, and why he's been less active and traveling less since then. Long plane rides are pretty bad for people with peripheral edema, and clotting issues. Also explains the bruising on his hands, they got that dude stuffed to the gills with blood thinners.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This was my reaction.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure they're basing 100% of their analysis on his public appearances, which is likely when he's at his best. He's either following a script or he's been coached on what to say immediately prior to going in front of a camera.

In any case, America is cooked. He's not going to step down, and there's still a nontrivial amount of support for him to be installed as grand pubah.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You guys realize the GOP already has a handle on this kind of political candidate right?

This is the third dementia riddled presidential term they've had.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know Reagan was one, who was the other? Are you counting trump's first term or somebody else?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Dubbya proportedly abdicated a ton of responsibility.

With the Patriot Act in full effect, we really have no idea what was going on.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

I don't think that was dementia. Profoundly stupid, yes, but that's different.

What if trump is just the monkeys paw fulfillment of "I wish George Bush weren't the dumbest fucking president in American history"?

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Early? Where have they been for the last several years?

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[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just fucking stroke out already

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems pretty clear he's been having TIAs, which greatly increase the odds of a CVA!

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Champaign stocks are going to go through the roof. Get in early.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 15 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Is it just me or does anyone else remember when everyone and their mother was in an outrage over Bidens age? Did that really happen or am I just dreaming?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Dude’s fallen asleep on duty several times before. Why the sudden debate?

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Expect plans to accelerate. They need to get to the point where they don't need Trump, asap.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

It wasn't normal when he was awake

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Trump should be forced to do what he wanted Biden to do. Where's all those cognitive tests now? What happened to all the concern about elderly presidents in the last 3 years? It was a #1 crisis when Biden was president and every yawn in public was dissected, but now that Trump is dozily walking around, suddenly age doesn't matter.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

What do psychologists have to do with this?

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[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

I like him better when he’s sleeping. It’s the only time he shuts up.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Trump is the same age Biden was in 2021.

Just sayin'.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

He's just working Dreamotely.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Oh yes... This is what we need the "alarms" for... Sleeping...

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He sure as shit won't be getting any better. But it won't matter. A big part of his usefulness is distracting us from what the real fascists are doing in the background. Should Vance, for some reason, have to take over, he'll serve a similar function.

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Keep tossing leaves in the pool, Nancy.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago

This is what happens after you become a liability and then have a private meeting with Putin where you drink or eat anything in a 10 mile radius.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He hasn't been normal at any time of his life

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He looks so much less evil when he's asleep. Still super evil, just less.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I never want to see that

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