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Since this wasn't apparent the last time I asked... no, I'm actually not a US citizen or green card holder (permanent resident). Just happened to be in this country for a long time due to career reasons.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 122 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Visit some national parks if you can (while they still exist).

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[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Visit some of the National Parks, aka America's best idea.

Some amazing ones (they're all amazing, tbh) in no particular order:

  • Yosemite
  • Arches / Canyonlands (close to each other)
  • Yellowstone
  • Grand Tetons
  • Glacier
  • Denali
  • Olympic
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Grand canyon isn't even on here, I'm disappointed

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[–] hit_the_rails@reddthat.com 96 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Buy some non US-based cloud storage and copy all your sensitive data to it, and delete said data from personal devices before leaving the country, so you can safely allow customs access to devices if required.

Retrieve data from the cloud when you arrive in the destination country.

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You don't go through US customs to leave the country.

[–] ylph@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is true, however you can still be targeted for extra checks by both customs and immigration if they have a reason to suspect you, even when departing the US. Both CBP and ICE have access to departing passenger lists.

For example you are required to declare larger sums of cash being carried out of the country (over $10k). You are supposed to go to customs and fill out a form, but many people do not know this, often legal immigrant workers taking cash back to their home countries. CBP uses dogs trained to smell cash and patrols departure lounges in airports, and if they pick you out, you can be searched, and any undeclared cash will simply be seized if found.

It's easy to imagine with the current administration they could start targeting people based on social media posts or some kind of previously compiled political profile or "enemies" list or whatever, if they aren't already.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 69 points 3 days ago (8 children)
  1. consider keeping your US phone number until all banking stuff is done since many banks do 2fa and this can be a giant pain after moving. Try to switch to an app if possible. Many providers also disallow known VoIP numbers.
  2. driving license was another one mentioned. Having it not expire before you can transfer it is preferable (assuming the target country allows transfer. Japan didn't until after two years after I got here and my license expired so I had to start from zero despite driving for 15+ years in the US). You may need to get notarized driving records which is also easier before you leave.
  3. go through and change/cancel anything with an address on file -- can be much easier from within the US. I went through the past year's bank records to find anything sneaky that doesn't renew monthly. If you have things that only renew every N years, don't forget to cancel or update those (domain names, for instance).
  4. Make sure all city, municipal, county, state, and federal tax stuff will be OK to do after leaving (sometimes, some prep is needed)
  5. If you have any retirement plans like 401ks, IRAs, etc. see about rolling them over or whatever
  6. maybe do something with social security with regard to your target country if an agreement is in place, particularly if you didn't work long enough to claim it. You can get US SS overseas in the vast majority of countries, but there are also certain provisions where you wouldn't or it would be reduced based on what you have in the target country.
  7. Freeze credit reports at the agencies as others mentioned
[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

driving license was another one mentioned. Having it not expire before you can transfer it is preferable

This is a giant, often overlooked issue. My home country of the Netherlands for example doesn't allow a simple transef and makes you take a test (because road safety is important to Dutch people!). In Germany it's even worse. There it depends on the state you obtained your US license in, since Germany has agreements with some states but not all...

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Obviously this is entirely dependent on where you're moving to, but I struggled to find the following when living abroad:

  • good (American-style) pizza
  • good Mexican food
  • good BBQ
  • certain ice cream flavors (like cherries jubilee/cherry garcia)
  • wide open spaces completely devoid of people
  • large-group events of a boisterous and goofy nature
  • certain types of museums/educational facilities (such as good zoos/wildlife rehab open to the public and interactive science museums)
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[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Get an FBI background check, and get it apostilled. Easy to do from your local post office in the US, difficult and expensive to do outside the us, and you will need it for many things you might want to do in other countries

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[–] loomi@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Freeze your credit profiles

[–] loomi@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

This is what I mean:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/credit-freeze/

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/08/why-where-you-should-you-plant-your-flag/

Basically put your electronic identify in a freezing unusable state so that in the off chance you must return, you don’t return to a nightmare. Just don’t forget your passwords and pins.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Open as many credit cards as you can and spend all the money and don't worry about paying it back it's all good

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I mean the banks most likely gonna carsh in a few years anyway.

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[–] venoft@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Get a few public library cards. Then abroad you can use it to borrow ebooks and audiobooks for free.

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes. But im not allowed to say it. But you most definitely should

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Mario sees you

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yosemite

Grand Canyon

Yellowstone

Avenue of the Giants


Add to this list any national parks you were thinking about visiting. After this administration, they may not be around anymore.

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[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 30 points 3 days ago

Sorry it came to this. We sane few who remain will miss you; we will undoubtedly be worse for losing the diversity of thought (and snarky humor) expats like you bring.

The best advice in the thread so far was to freeze your credit. And I'd add: don't assume you'll never want to come back just because your current self doesn't forsee it. For your own sake, don't burn bridges out of spite.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Close the door firmly after you leave.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So others can't get out? So others still can't come in? So we don't let out all the AC?

Find out next time on: Puzzling Commentary!™

this has been a Desilu presentation.

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[–] ChaoticCookie@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago

Take me with you!!

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, if you have a chance go to Washington DC the museums are beautiful. If you’re leaving permanently, you probably will never see them again.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 26 points 4 days ago

Eat some good barbeque.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Currently in the same boat, though I'm a citizen

  1. Figure out your car and drivers license stuff. Some countries have an agreement that lets you swap a US license for theirs.

  2. Mail forwarding. Either forward your mail to someone you trust or pay for an international forwarding service. You're still gonna be getting mail afterwards, like credit card renewals.

  3. You'll likely have to do the same for finances

  4. Go through everything you own and trim down. Whatever you don't get rid of, you'll have to deal with customs.

And finally, get a lawyer. No seriously. I know they're expensive but you don't want to fuck around with emigrating on your own. You're gonna have pleeeenty of questions for them

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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

First, get a [removed by mod], make sure it's [removed by mod], then [removed by mod] right in the [removed by mod]

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 22 points 4 days ago

Wipe your feet on the way out.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Go to a country which is better than the US. So skip North Korea, Somalia, Palestine. Then you're good.

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[–] Brynawel@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago

Scheiß dem Trump vor's weiße Haus.

[–] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Take me with?

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Were you just on H1-B status the entire time?

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I... don't quite feel comfortable sharing the full details, but F-1; I have submitted a green card application too but no way it's gonna pass now. I might find an opportunity to write about it a bit more in the future

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

Oh no worries, I was just curious as someone who's familiar with the process. No need to elaborate further if you're not comfortable sharing. Good luck with your future endeavors!

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 15 points 3 days ago

Have a plan for investments and bank accounts.

Update correspondence information.

Sell or give everything you are not taking.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago

My answer depends on whether the country you’re going to has an extradition treaty with the United States.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Go camp at a dark sky park for a weekend.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hard to come up with non-joke suggestions without knowing the locale. Seattle? Un Bien. Las Vegas? The Double Down Saloon. San Francisco? Smitten. Portland? Powell's books.

Generally? Grab a pebbled ice machine and turn the lights off on your way out.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago

Vandalise something

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