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Not exactly what you're asking, but Cabin in the Woods is like a love letter to all horror movies. It drops references and homages left and right, making horror movie tropes actual plot points, including bizzare foreign horror movies that aren't explained at all. The more you know about horror movies, folklore, and monster cinema, the more you will understand the movie.
If you haven't seen it, go see it now. I won't say anything else.
Have you seen Tucker & Dale vs Evil? It's not quite the same but I think there's probably a lot of overlap between people who enjoyed that movie and Cabin in the Woods.
oh this one is a fav of mine but I was raised redneck so
Both are great movies, Cabin definitely is more of an "homage to the genre" while Tucker is a "comedy about the genre" but really good in its own right. Both still have a good horror theme to it but Cabin was more about touching all the tropes while still being a "standard horror". Tucker and dale is just funny.
Part of why I associate the two movies is just the Joss Whedon* (who produced and co-wrote Cabin in the Woods) connection with Alan Tudyk (playing Tucker from T&DvE), Amy Acker, and Fran Kranz (playing Wendy Lin and Marty Mikalski, respectively, in Cabin). The three also appear together in a 2009 series created by Whedon called Dollhouse alongside several other familiar actors from some of his other shows like Firefly and Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
That's all beside the point though, just something I find interesting (in spite of the asterisk). Tucker & Dale has some good genre-aware winks to the audience in the same way as Cabin but much more limited scope.
* Obligatory mention that he's a couple different kinds of asshole.
Hmm I really liked Tucker & Dale, might give Cabin in the Woods a shot
Anything to do with vampires. So much of the lore is implied and you are expected to have some previous knowledge of the concept of a vampire.
Although this might have spread enough that pretty much the entire world has some context. I'm not really sure.
Anyone not from Europe or North America, did you understand vampires the first time you saw a film or series involving them?
Can't come in unless invited, don't have a reflection, sensitive (or deathly allergic) to light, garlic, and holy water, these things are rarely explained.
and then other IP have thier own lore as to why vampires are that way. Oh most of it doesnt work on DRACULA, the ubervampire, which he can control victims telepathically. apparently it also works demons too to an extent(holy water).
or many series, dhampires are immune to the vulnerabilities that affect full vampires, making them stronger than them. Also some genre have them overcoming the sunlight weakness through various means; Magic or drugs.
at least in castlevania, vampires also posesses numerous other abilities, like turning into mist or bats to evade attack, or USE MAGIC themselves.
Yeah Dracula was scary even when he was just standing around talking with his mouth almost closed.
Even if you're raised in a culture that has vampires, sometimes you still get caught out. I remember watching some vampire series pre-Buffy and the whole poppy seed thing left me totally flummoxed.
Poppy seed?
Not sure if this is what they're talking about, but vampires are frequently depicted as having to stop and count large numbers of small things. So if you're being chased by one you can throw out salt or grains of rice or seeds or whatever and they will have to stop and count it before they continue pursuing you. Or you can attack while they're preoccupied too I guess. That's where you get the count from Sesame Street.
Whoa, no way. THAT'S why he's the Count? I thought it was a royalty/ bloodline thing.
In general, vampires existed to me as a commentary on colonialism, class, and the advantages to longevity. Vampires as "blood suckers of the poor", to quote Popa Wu, who was quoting Louis Farrakhan.
I didn't know the 'stop and count objects' element.
Question, though, as I think this through: would that not extend as an antisemitic trope?
(A half hour of reading later.)
TIL there is an antisemitic history to vampires.
"As rendered by Bram Stoker, the literary depiction of Count Dracula is deeply antisemitic, with roots in the long-standing blood libel against Jews and the antisemitic archetype of the wealth-hoarding degenerate." [2]
"Today, the vampire remains one of cinema’s most popular horror villains, and the connections to prejudice are largely forgotten, or erased. They still lurk around the edges of the genre though, as generations of creators have either furtively invited them in or tried to put a stake through their heart." [1]
"The symbolic link between Jews and blood through a history of blood libel and the depiction of Jews as alien and parasitic are seen the main themes that allowed the merging of the two image." [3]
[1] Bloodsuckers: Vampires, Antisemitism And Nosferatu At 100
[2] The Antisemitic History of Vampires
[3] How Vampires Became Jewish
[4] Blood Libel: The Anti-Semitic Roots of Vampirism
I've never heared of that before. Thanks!
Given the amount of Castlevania games, I think it's fair to say vampires are understood in Japan at least.
It's well known that RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles are a good defense against vampires, but I've never seen it in a movie
Films about exorcism. Even if I have religious family members, my non-religious mind can't comprehend the point about these films, no matter how hard I try.
The Enlightened Atheist Mind is simply too logical to understand this one specific trope 😔
I think of it as their version of Cosmic Horror.
The Exorcist works for me even in spite of my atheism. Ignoring the actual exorcism in it, the film is about a mother whose daughter is unwell, whose condition is truly mysterious, cannot be cured by conventional means, and is destroying the lives of both the mother and the daughter. Knowing your child is ill and not knowing how or if they'll be cured is a form of horror that resonates with many and I feel so strongly sympathetic for the characters in the film.
The vast majority of Japanese horror doesn't seem to catch on outside of Japan. Sure, there's a few exceptions. But by and large their folklore and culture is "foreign" enough that horror(a niche genre in and of itself) from Japan can seem well.....unscary to someone say from America.
I think there's at least two layers to horror.
There's the universal something-in-the-dark-scary-noises layer of scary. And there's the culturally specific that-something-is-definitely-a-vampire layer of scary.
The Ring was scary to me without me knowing anything about Japan.
Everyone can enjoy them, but the home team gets bonus content.
Sure but Ringu dealt with the horror in a unique way namely "who would you offer up to save yourself?"
And I don't count the American Remake. It was shit.
counterpoint; hopping zombies.
I thought I understood Japanese horror. Ring, Dark Water, etc.
Then I watched Dead Sushi...
I've watched a few Chinese horror films that have to do with Luck/Lucky things rr specific curses or hexes. While they can be spooky, they don't hit me in the same way as something more native to my own cultural heritage does.
Which ones?
Not sure if it was Chinese, but I believe Incantation fits that bill. One of my top fave movies I saw this year, but noticed while looking for reviews afterwards that there was a huge uproar overseas by people who truly believed they were tricked into being cursed by the movie
Invasion of the Bodysnatchers is inherently scary, but it carries an added meaning when you realize it was capitalizing on 1950s fears of communism.
Wasn't The Thing as well?
I believe so!
Any movie that relies on "The call is coming from inside the house" trope.
WTF is a landline?
What if the cell phone was triangulated to come from your house??
This wasn't your question exactly, but here, a good horror movie for you:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hpcx5
"Pikunikku" from 1996 is supposed to be pretty good too.
Train to Busan is generally a good movie, but one scene involving passenger infighting is very much a statement on the country’s class warfare; so it may not make much sense to people otherwise.
I wonder if there are any horror movies about fan death as the theme.
I think you can definitely understand it (I did), but Pontypool is a film that's very rooted in Canadian culture and discussions on the nature of the country and Quebec in specific.
