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[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 111 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm a farmer. I warned my neighbors. I've had two hardcore trumpers walk up to me nowon two separate occasions now and tell me to my face "you were right"

I took no victory lap when either of them admitted it. The fact they admitted it was mind-blowing in and of itself. I didnt think they could ever be broken to admit it.

My response, "we've got three more years of this bullshit".

We're all in this together. But now you fucking understand.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Honestly I don't think they actually understand. Ask them who they plan to vote for in the mid-terms.

If they truly understand then they should never utter the word Republican for the rest of their lives.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You are probably right. But from personal experience with both of the people who admitted they were wrong, the huge dose of humble pie they ate to ever admit to me, that's takes real effort. One sees it in his pocketbook. He may forget. The other sees it after a solid dozen of his employees have been deported after ice raids. He's hurting in his pocketbook and in the personal relationships he has built with his employees.

To be fair I've told these people that all farmers should be voting dem across the board, quite militantly, for years now. But guns and "Jesus" made them think I was a madman. I know and understand who's blood and sweat our tiny world is built on,and finally they are starting to understand it. I hope it is a lesson that sticks. I'll be doing my damned best to make sure it does.

These are people that have fallen for propaganda. Decades of it. They aren't bad. They are just stupid for not paying attention. We can fix that. Call it out but please don't forget your empathy. I'm having a hard enough time as it is.

As a guy who grew up in farmland, still have family friends out there, I honestly am just tired of it all man and have gone full Robot Chicken Batman v Superman.

Sorry but after hearing 30 years of handouts vs helping hand, listening to them moan about crop insurance, literally a social safety net, being too expensive and not getting them to connect the dots that climate instability is ruining your crops, I mean how the hell do you have so many bad years of winter wheat all of the sudden, and hearing "you're one of the good ones", no dude I'm your average American as are all of the others you complain about with inaccurate alternative facts.

I'm just kind of all out of F's to give. I just nod and say hi when I see people for the most part when I go home and just shake my head.

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[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They'll pull another W. Bush era "republicans got us into this mess so we're voting them back in so they have to fix it". I still can't believe how stupid Americans are.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

I still can’t believe how stupid Americans are.

believe it, never forget that the fascists are 'stupid' for the same reasons that nigerian prince emails are full of spelling and grammar mistakes

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[–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

“we’ve got three more years of this bullshit”.

An optimist?

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But will they vote for a Democrat next time? I hope so, but the cynic in me says fuck no they won't.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mark my words, Democrats will make it so tempting to not vote for them.

They will find a way.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm already getting blasted with ads for the heir apparent to replace Beto here in Texas. Some baby faced compromise that the Texas DNC has picked because of the fucking algorithm or something. Useless bastards all of them. All the Dems in deep red that I know are watching with waited breath for mamdami to win so we can use it as an actual example of what real policy ideals and 'fuck the DNC' effort can be. It's a thousand miles away but that's what we fucking need to show that these basic ass milquetoast candidates don't work. Ann Richards hasn't been relevant for thirty years but they keep trying the same goddamn thing. Fingers crossed they figure it out eventually.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

They're not gonna figure it out because their paycheck depends on it. The DNC — the entire party establishment — needs to have the baby thrown out with the bathwater if the average American has any hope of legitimate opposition to corporate dictatorship.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

LOOOOL you think he is leaving in three years??

....the only way that piece of shit is leaving the white house is feet first

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty upset about it. I really don't like seeing fields of rotting crops, and I don't want all the farms sold to mega agrocorps

It's like an idiot ignoring your warnings and losing a finger. It just doesn't feel good, and now there's blood everywhere, and they're not going to be the one cleaning it up

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're absolutely right, it DOESN'T feel good to see so many people getting fucked like this. We SHOULDN'T have to see this in our lifetimes. We're SUPPOSED to be better than this.

But in this day and age, in this absolute clusterfucked circus of a timeline, some people are just so goddamn stupid, so deeply indoctrinated, and stubborn, and hateful, and all the other things we associate with modern Republican voters, that the unfortunate truth is that trying to talk to these people, and warn them of the consequences of their actions, just doesn't work anymore. They don't wanna hear it, and should you try to tell them, they either legitimately don't understand, don't give 2 shits, actively want it, or some combo of all 3 and more.

And so the only option we have left is letting the idiot blow off his fingers with the firecrackers, while trying to contain the fallout, because at this point they simply will not learn, otherwise. It's awful, and terrible, and a nasty way to deal with it, but when the people we're trying to help and save are so adversarial towards anyone trying to help them... all you can do is wait for them to come to you.

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[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

if the idiot in question got your fingers cut off as well as theirs, I would take some pleasure in their pain. I'm not proud of that. it's very corrosive, and it's not good for my soul. but... it quenches my anger, somewhat. :/

[–] linkshandig@lemmy.today 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who do you think is going to buy up all the farms on the cheap? This is bad for all of us

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

Supposedly couch boy vance himself who is said to have shares in a company for distressed business. Directly profiting.

https://civileats.com/2024/09/18/jd-vance-invested-in-acretrader-heres-why-that-matters/

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 11 points 3 days ago

If only there were signs 😞

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My tears are for those of us who either voted against it or didn't get a choice (i.e. the rest of the world). Everyone else can use their own tears for lube while we're all fucked.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

So true. I do feel for those who voted against this or didn’t get a say

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How do you fall for this twice, when he continues to hype the same exact ideas that caused this exact same thing to happen to eg exact same farmers in his first term

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, funny, until the food disappears.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like all of this food was going to china.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The issue isn't this food in particular, it's what happens to the farmers going forward. A lot of independent farmers are on thin margins. One lost year of income could leave them unable to afford planting for next year.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Farmers: I'll still vote for Trump every opportunity I get.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

They’ll be out in great numbers, sporting their cult gear to vote for dump a third time.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't feel bad for those immorally underpaying and abusing the desperate and undocumented (maybe the vast majority of them?), but I kinda do for those who weren't. It's not so black and white, sometimes people are just more stupid than they are evil and fall for low level propaganda. We should strive to build a world that's a bit more foolproof, IMO.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago

Immigrant labor abuse depends on what you're farming. Corn and soybeans are ridiculously well automated and only need a few people to run hundreds of acres.

Anything else? Needs teams of workers, and of course those are going to be abused immigrants.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The situation echoes the 2018-2020 trade war, during which U.S. agriculture lost $26 billion, with nearly $20 billion in soybean losses alone. Soybeans accounted for 71% of agricultural losses experienced by American farmers during that earlier conflict.

Despite acknowledging that he believes Trump “loves farmers” and is “trying to do what’s right for this country,” he emphasized the need for immediate action: “We gotta make sure that we survive through these tough times.”

Friends... nothing is changing.

China's smart to redirect purchases to Brazil so aggressively. If they want to create political pressure, it's effective... But I think they underestimate political loyalty to whatever Trump's doing these days.


CCP, if you're reading this, go after the rich guys' pockets. Trust me, that will create pressure overnight.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump pulled this shit first time around. This is China Trade War 2.0. They had all the time in the world to think on their vote.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not even funny or ironic at this point. I feel sad these people are in our society. I feel sad that in the back of my mind there is a thought that the world would be better without them in it. This horrid thought is that our quality of life in this world could be increased by a systematic euthanization along party lines, goodbye MAGA, etc.
These are Hitler ideas, but I can't form a rebuttal against them because it feels like a legal defense for literal evil (deranged pedophile greed worshipping control freaks).

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And the worst part is, the bastards count on moral, ethical people balking at doing what those selfsame bastards would love to do

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm a little bit sad about the same thing, but I think I've gotten over it.

The thing is, these people don't want some other people to have the right to exist. That disqualifies them from having the right to exist, and so removing them from existence so that everybody else can live peacefully is okay.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i'm not laughing.

that is food shortages for our future. not just higher prices but missing grocery items from US stores.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Listen: That's where our food comes from.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

This calls for a change of diet: eat the rich.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

I'm tired of farmers holding us hostage with this rhetoric.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Yes, technically, because I’m guffawing so hard it physically hurts.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

There are actually a lot of democrat farmers. Most of their polls get really poorly represented by being lumped in with Agriculture Industry as a whole.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody will be laughing once there's no food.

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