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In the world of presidential health, distrust and speculation run so rampant that even Mr. Trump’s online assurance that he was fine was immediately explained away as part of a cover-up.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, I wasn't particularly convinced. but i was PARTICULARLY hopeful.

also, him being alive doesn't mean he hasn't had some sort of medical event, etc.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Once you understand more about JD Vance (and the tech billionaires that installed him) you wouldn't be as hopeful for the future as you are now. It won't get better after cheeto dies.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah, he's a weakling specifically chosen by Trump because he's a weakling.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. Pence didn't get the second run because he showed actual backbone when democracy was actually on the line. Vance is a little bitch boy yes-man.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it was more that Pence realized Trump couldn't pull off that coup, so he wasn't gonna stick out his neck for him. If he wasn't VP then, I have no doubt he'd support Trump up until the present day, even if he has the same misgivings all ambitious right wingers have. People like him never allied with Trump because they like him, but because he wins against Democrats and politically destroys rival Republicans.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

He was Thiel's and Musk's "gift" to Trump.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

JD “whatever makes sense” Vance couldnt build a cult following if he tried. He has zero, it not negative, charisma

Its worth saying he doesnt need one to get into power, but at the same time no one would turn a blind eye to his actions based solely on bias like they do with Trump. He has no chance of placating the MAGA party whatsoever if they turn on him for any reason. Not to mention that everyone knows hes a weird little gremlin, even his supporters

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

JD Vance is an expert in pleasing his master. Pleasing the people is not the goal.

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

Are any of us really waiting for it to get better at this point or do we just want to have to stop paying rent/going to work?

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Most likely way to go;

  • FSB Defenestration
  • FSB cyanide injection, Bohdan Stashynsky-style
  • Assassination by foreign power
  • Assassination by domestic freedom-fighter
  • Assassination by debtor
  • Natural causes from dementia.
[–] devolution@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Got it all wrong. The internet hoped.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Some say they still do

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

He's just trying to distract us by still being alive! Lol

Honestly that's the worst thing he has done as a distraction

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

“There’s always been this wishful-thinking industry around Trump’s health and Trump’s legal woes,” said Mike Rothschild, a journalist and author who studies conspiracy movements. “There’s been this far-left influencer sphere that is constantly pumping up the idea that Trump is about to go to prison or the walls are closing in.”

Actually pretty sure the fucking assholes who kept chanting "tRuSt tHe pRoCeSs" were the centrist pro-business democrats and the people who thought Merrick Garland wasn't absolutely fucking this all up.

Further, him deserving to go to prison is why people were fucking hopeful that he would.

Anyway, at least the idea that can "trust the process" is finally dead and fucking buried where it should have been thirty god damned years ago.

But seriously, how long is the NYT gonna sanewash this shit and act like Trump isn't an abusive criminal who has successfully abused the system to put himself above the law? Now literally comparing the need to put a criminal like him behind bars and bar him from running for President to fringe conspiracy theories. What a crock of shit.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not gonna lie, Meidas Touch is annoying.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Long ago, someone observed that the system won't save you. That's what it's there for.

And it'll certainly not save you from the system.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, that headline is real big talk for a newspaper who was convinced Saddam had WMD

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah, we didn't know back when that law was just over.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Internet was convinced otherwise.

No we weren't. I've learned that there is no such thing as good news anymore.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 day ago

The face books and twitters

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think most people were convinced, but it was nice to entertain the thought.

If he actually had died, the resulting power vacuum would have been felt around the world within minutes.

That or he did die and they had to decant one of his spare clones out of a vat.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Six people posted tongue in cheek stuff mocking what the conservatives did when Biden wasn't constantly in the news and suddenly news articles are saying the whole Internet was convinced.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

What else would they have been tossing out the window in black trash bags?

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

I wasn’t convinced I was pushing a narrative.

I wasn't convinced and I don't think the internet was either. Listen, people are a bit desperate for some good news right now. However, I will admit that I was indeed shining and polishing my crab emoji. Just in case.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it's so much "believed" as "hoped."

Specifically, people hoped that the staggeringly dangerous and destructive deranged megalomaniac currently destroying the US had died, since at this point, in a world in which virtually none of the politicians, government officials or journalists who are actually in a position to do anything to at least slow the US's Trump-led sprint to neo-feudalism can be bothered to lift a finger, him dying is about the only hope we billions of ordinary prople have.

But of course, the NYT is at the forefront of the journalists who can't be bothered to actually demonstrate any principles or integrity, so all we get from them is this bit of sycophantic pabulum.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

don't forget "wanted to see if he could be goaded into doing something to harm himself and his followers just to prove something stupid"

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

He's still alive? Oh well, sending thought and prayers that the situation improves.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Not convinced, just feverishly hoping.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

What even is this article? It’s a rambling history of Trump’s medical woes as some sort of chastisement to “the internet” for hoping he had died? It’s clearly sort of the Times again sucking up to Trump, but in a weird way that doesn’t make sense?

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 5 points 19 hours ago

You can't blame people for wanting to have hopes about good things.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Would be great if that changed.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe he was replaced with a robot body double...

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

No, the robot double was in the Epstein files and completely innocent nice uncle Trump just turned up after the evil robot double broke. Unfortunately the robot double completely disintegrated and left no traces. Just in case it should also be pardoned.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Hope is a powerful thing.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I only believe his soul died long ago.