It’s all a lot less fantastical when you compare it to Pocahontas:
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It’s all a lot less fantastical when you compare it to Pocahontas:
Or Fern Gully, or Dances With Wolves... it's not exactly an uncommon story.
Ah, but before Avatar came along it was never quite so poorly written!
Dances with Smurfs
Yes but Disney's Pocahontas was boring to tears while Avatar has cool hair-sex and explosions
And it is otherwise entirely dull and forgettable. Despite making so much money, it barely made any cultural impact. Nobody quotes Avatar like ever.
The reason it was such a hit at the time was mainly its visuals, IMO. Story might be predictable and shallow, but you can't deny it looks beautiful. All the colorful jungle, alien species, green mountain peaks and needle rocks, it's all just very pleasant to look at. What also helped it being directed by big Hollywood name.
PS: unrelated, but it has amazing OST.
I've always looked at the Avatar movies as being more about advancing movie making technology than about creating a good movie. I think James Cameron will be more remembered for his technical advances than for this storytelling.
Also it came out right at the time when 3D movies were at their (very short lived) peak.
And it did a GREAT job using that tech. I've never seen better.
The movie is a visual masterpiece and a king of theater-watching cinema.
Sure the story is bland but ain't nobody watching that movie for the story.
Yeah, that's kind of the point? Was the comparison between the Na'Vi and native Americans too subtle for you to notice before you saw this meme?
Not for me personally. Just find it funny how 1:1 it is with the original. This meme has been around since the year the movie came out.
Pretty sure it now has a theme park or something, doesn't it?
It's bizarre how much "stuff" there is for the blue people Avatar franchise, considering what a tiny lasting cultural impact the original movie had.
The original movie was an incredible tech demo. It was an utterly forgettable movie. I had no desire to bother watching the sequel.
It’s bizarre how much “stuff” there is
It's not...
James Cameron spent a lot of money to make the first one, and wants to keep making them.
So the studio decided to just pretend that everyone wants more, and the entertainment media repeats it so the studio stays happy and tells them things.
The people don't want, but that doesn't really matter anymore. Enough will go see anything the media says is good, and just believe it's good.
Lots of people are idiots, which explains a lot about capitalism
I don't understand the appeal of Avatar. I really don't. The writing is beyond lazy, and while the visuals may be impressive or whatever, the things they're depicting just look weird and unappealing to me.
But even I can't pretend that its success is only due to hype. There are plenty of successful movies that don't deserve their success, but you don't get as successful as Avatar without giving the audience something. People aren't that dumb.
Sure, the movies aren't very deep, but the world-building and visuals are pretty great. The emotional beats tend to hit as they should too so it's entertaining fluff. Sure, I enjoy a fancy steak, but I'm also going to fully enjoy cotton candy at the carnival too.
Yeah, i remember going to see it mostly because of 3D (which probably helped a lot in becoming one of the most successful movies ever, thanks to the novelty and higher ticket price).
But left so little impact that i can hardly remember anything about it and have no interest whatsoever in seeing the sequels.
The theme park in animal kingdom was fine
Yah I saw the original in 3D and on acid, and it was incredible.
I also will probably never see the sequels.
"Showed up out of nowhere", ie. in development since the mid 90's; "made the most bank", ie. made the 2nd most bank; "disappeared", ie. Cameron said that there would be 4 sequels and that they're being worked on; "came back out of nowhere", ie. the first sequel came out more or less when it was supposed to, and Cameron said in 2020 that filming on Avatar 3 was nearly finished.
i feel like the feeling of them coming "out of nowhere" and "disappearing" is created by how little cultural impact those movies managed to create. like give me a single quote, anything memorable from the story itself. we all remember it is a beautiful film to watch, but the plot might as well be a theme park ride around an alien world
nobody talks about it, there is nothing to talk about
like give me a single quote, anything memorable from the story itself
Well there was the part where the… uh… the guy, whatshisface said…
Wait, no… ok well how about when the… um… there was that one part in… err, either the first or the second movie, one of the aliens did… umm…
You know what, I'll get back to you on this one
"JakeSully" - Blue catgirl Gamora
See this? That's Unobtainium.
Isn't the story alien sideboob? I still remember that, very meaningful
it is unapologetically in favor of preserving nature, anticapitalist, and anti military. the boys from chapo trap house like it and point out that its one of the few movies with a mainstream theatrical release in which the audience is made to cheer on the blue furry hippie throwing a bunch of US marines out of a helicopter to their death.
I want to hear the original version of the soundtrack. I do not care about the actual film at all, but supposedly Cameron hired a bunch of leading ethnomusicologists to attempt to create something unlike any music on Earth, only to then ditch the majority of what they made because it sounded too weird
Keeping unobtainium in the script unironically met bizarrely little criticism.
Are we not going to talk about the fact that the logo uses something that is almost identical to the Papyrus font?
"I KNOW WHAT YOU DID!!"
You're assuming there are people who remember what the logo looks like.
Avatar didn’t come out of nowhere at all. It is made by one of the most beloved and successful film makers in history. The hype leading up to that movie was off the charts.
I saw the first movie, forgot almost completely what it was about. But I have to admit I thought it would be about the the Airbender. Half of the movie I felt stupid and cheated at the same time... Probably why I don't remember what it was about.
Well, it's better than the actual ATLA movie.
There is no movie in Ba Sing Se.
There also is no live action TV adaptation.
That's even weirder really, the movie was so forgettable.
I think it made so much money at the box office because it was so visually stunning (for the time) and no one had made a movie like that at that point. It was very much a movie everyone said to go watch on the big screen in 3D, ideally IMAX 3D. I never did and only watched it on a DVD borrowed from my wife’s friend 6 or 7 years ago, and came away less impressed. Like, it’s fine, but the movie itself isn’t exactly the greatest story ever told, and the visuals, while groundbreaking at the time, are now pretty standard.
Man, it's just so friggin boring. I gave up on the second movie halfway through and I struggled through the first one. I don't understand why it became a global blockbuster.
In “How To With John Wilson” he finds an actual Avatar fan group who like to dress up as blue aliens, but it still felt super niche for a multi billion dollar film series. It’s like everyone simply forgets about it when there’s not one on in cinemas.
Well it had James Cameron as a director which automatically meant was going to make money. Also it was technically very impressive for the time which was kind of the point. Cameron made a huge deal of how this was a story that he'd wanted to tell for ages but hadn't been able to until the technology got to the point where he could use it.
After the movie came out there wasn't really any obvious path forward. It wasn't supposed to be a franchise it was just a movie that stood on its own. So nothing happened for years.
Then things like the volume came along and it started getting used even in TV productions, and suddenly a whole new level of capability arose and so they decided that they would make another movie only this time why stop at just one?
People think it's so cool to shit on this series and have nothing to say about the Marvel dogshit lol
Also, it’s an original movie. It’s not an adaptation or a sequel of any sorts. No other movie in top 50 highest grossing movies is an original. Closest is Titanic, but that’s half based on a real event.
Well, "original" is relative
It’s original in the sense that it all started with the movie. There wasn’t any Avatar novels, comic books, toys or video games before the movie.
The story is quite derivative though.