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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 241 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

American government: Builds concentration camps

Mexican government: Develops brand new chocolate bars

I'm happy to see there are still some governments out there who rule in the interest of the people.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 52 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A high quality chocolate bar, at that.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 87 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Not objecting, but what is the motivation of the Mexican government to do this? Have they done similar things before?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 90 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't think they've done something exactly like this, but they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years, going as far as labeling all foods with excess fats, salt, and sugar. It's very visible on the package and it does influence what I buy.

But this is the way I found out we're doing this now. 😅

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 42 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

But also I think because all the existing cocoa producers are evil enslavers. This will help something like 1800 Mexican farmers.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nestle is notoriously evil - I'm hoping Mexico can compete

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 15 points 17 hours ago

they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years

Actually doing something? Good on them!

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 19 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Government should probably provide the cheapest food and set the standard.

However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability. Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

Less profits for shareholders? And that is unacceptable!

/s

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Uhh what?

It’s called competition. Having a competitor in the market who’s goal is to keep people fed instead of making money hand over fist would both bring prices down and bring quality up on higher priced items.

If we have to do capitalism, let’s get some not-for-profit competition happening.

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[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

Issues for who? The consumer? Or the capitalists?

If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability.

It would hint that it's a shitty product, presuming no foul play by the government and the product is not overpriced (doesn't appear to be).

Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

Government correction how? From suppression I think you mean lowering their price? The scenario you're laying out doesn't make sense.

The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.

You start by making a better product, and you can charge whatever people decide the improved product is worth. It's a good thing that an asshole capitalist can't market a $7 bar of chocolate when a very good quality one is $1. At that price difference, your chocolate better be amazing.

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[–] Sagan_Wept@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 23 hours ago (5 children)
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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 78 points 1 day ago

American slop producers in shambles

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If you haven't had chocolate with vanilla in it, consider trying it. It's my favorite chocolate additive. You need to purge ideas about vanilla being sweet or creamy. It's a tobaccoy rich flavor that adds some depth even to dark chocolate.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not the news I was expecting but kind of a cool way to address a variety of issues, like obesity, imports from US, generating revenue, subsidizing a national crop, etc.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 25 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

Hershey chocolate bar is rejected as chocolate because it doesn't have enough cocoa and is contaminated with lead.

Hershey's milk chocolate contains around 11% cocoa solids, meaning it doesn't meet the European standard according to some sources. Therefore, in some European countries, Hershey's is labeled as "chocolate-flavored" or "chocolate-flavored candy bar" rather than simply "chocolate". 

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/consumer-reports-finds-more-lead-cadmium-chocolate-urges-change-hershey-2023-10-25/

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[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (13 children)

Don't get me wrong, I don't ~~Mexico to sell~~ mind Mexico selling chocolate but why are they thinking this is part of their job as government??

[–] quetzaldilla@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Cacao is a national treasure, and America floods Mexico with Hershey's, Snickers, and other subpar "chocolate" and destroys local competition with cheap prices.

Fun fact:

The word "chocolate" is derived from the Nahuatl word Xocholatl (chikola-tl).

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mexico has been trying a lot to reduce obesity through various product labeling. This looks like a step in that direction; a snack that uses an indigenous ingredient (chocolate) in a manner that complies with federal guidelines.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean Mexico made certain Goods MORE Expensive but then Offered a Public alternative so people don't HAVE to pay the Increase in Price?

That's STUPID! They should just Slap a TARIFF on it WITHOUT Investment or Alternatives and let their Citizens deal with the Price increase!

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Try chocolate that wasn't made in America... Then imagine living a country with some of the best ingredients for chocolate making, and only seeing American chocolate on your store shelves... If capitalism is breaking stuff, the government is pretty much the only ones that can fix it. Though when the government is the thing that capitalism is breaking, I can see why you might not want them to do more than they currently do.

Government is supposed to be about pooling money so it can be more efficiently and effectively spent. Economies of scale. Even if the government only half does what you want and half does stuff you don't care about, you are still getting better bang for your buck than if you tried to use your own tiny amounts of money to buy the half you do want.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Try chocolate that wasn't made in America...

I'm actually very fond of the US but the chocolate is absolute filth, sorry lads. I was so excited to try Hershey's and holy moly was it an earth shattering disappointment.

[–] kayakdaddy@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Born and bred in America and won’t eat American chocolate - literally tastes like vomit. And I do mean literally - Hershey’s chocolate goes through a process called lipolysis that breaks down their milk some and introduces butyric acid, which gives Parmesan, sour cream and other pungent dairy foods (and vomit) their smells.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Governments subsidize foods all the time. Yours probably does, too.

Mexico already has Welfare Stores, and this bar is being made in co-op with Food for Wellness.

https://www.informador.mx/mexico/Chocolate-del-Bienestar-en-ESTAS-tiendas-podras-comprarlo-20250710-0131.html

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[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago

I don't follow Mexican politics closely, but this could be part of an effort to curb obesity. I've heard they introduced taxes on sugary drinks for this, so this might be another avenue.

If people are wanting cheap snacks, and private companies are only making unhealthy ones, you can introduce regulations to micromanage what they can produce, or you can introduce a complex taxation process to disincentivize sugar snacks. Or you can introduce your own product that meets a perceived unmet demand in an underserved market.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government is the things we choose to do together. If the people choose healthy chocolate, then that's the job.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 19 points 19 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The lady doing the presentation said that it has 35% of cane sugar.

Also behind her you see "hecho con azúcar de caña" which means "made with cane sugar".

Cane sugar is generally at least a bit refined merely to purify it (so unlike High-Frutose Corn Syrup it's not made by chemically transforming something else).

That said, it's unclear if they use unrefined sugar cane, though that stuff is a complete total pita to work with hence I doubt it's not in the least bit refined.

Mind you I looked around and the info on this is all over the place: like for example saying "no added sugars" but then a bit further it turns out it has "cane sugar", which does mean that sugars were added (as the cocoa plant doesn't produce cane sugar, that would be the sugarcane plant).

Mind you, by all indications this beats almost all North American chocolates, but that hardly a tall barrier to overcome. It's pretty common to find similar stuff in European supermarkets.

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[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

I'd love to have a taste.

Too bad I live in Northern Europe...probably not worth buying via the Internet even if it was possible...

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

50% is a little low for my taste. I wish it was more like 40 60 80. I'd be going for the 80. Or maybe just 50 & 70. I can live with 70.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Others say it's to fight chiodhood obesity, kids dont tend to like dark/good chocolate.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Idk, my kids love dark chocolate but also I hate milk chocolate so they haven't had much of it.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Well your spawn have unusually good taste. This is not normal.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

so when do we see nestle/mars/whoever try to kill this?

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[–] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What is the objective behind selling the chocolate bars? I will have to delve deeper into the topic.

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I would presume it's because they're low in sugar. Due to exploding diabetes rates, Mexico has been making a concerted effort in the last few years to stem the consumption of sugary foods, drinks and snacks, particularly amongst kids. You can't have a cartoon mascot on a box of cereal, for example. They put big stickers over Tony the Tiger before changing the packaging completely. And the cost of snack foods has skyrocketed, making it largely unaffordable for lots of Mexican families. A bag of chips there costs more than it does in North America.

My guess is that this is part of that effort.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 11 points 2 hours ago

Not to be outdone, Trump had the following announcement from the White House:

"Today, the USA introduced its new chocolate bar, priced at over $10. Made of 0% cocoa, hydrogenated corn syrup, and trans fats. No natural ingredients, no milk, no vanilla. It's bigly on flavor and very, very, tasty. We are taking pre-orders now at USAChocolate.gov."

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how are the labor practices

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 17 points 1 day ago (13 children)
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