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[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 19 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Government should probably provide the cheapest food and set the standard.

However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability. Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago

Less profits for shareholders? And that is unacceptable!

/s

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Uhh what?

It’s called competition. Having a competitor in the market who’s goal is to keep people fed instead of making money hand over fist would both bring prices down and bring quality up on higher priced items.

If we have to do capitalism, let’s get some not-for-profit competition happening.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In an ideal world, yes that would be the competition. However, in reality if the governance sets the standard, they can have almost always the cheapest prices. Wide reach, built transportation systems and probably incentivized contracts. Essentially everything that fucked up India with the British during ww2.

Well if another company can go lower, it inherently implies they are skimping somewhere so quality is lost or regulations circumvented. Any government correction can overstep.

Go start your not-for-profit competition. Farm for yourself, grow crops at home, reduce your footprint. Find community in your neighborhood.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 47 minutes ago

However, in reality if the governance sets the standard, they can have almost always the cheapest prices. Wide reach, built transportation systems and probably incentivized contracts.

Yes, and yes, but why are either of these a bad thing? Cheap, good quality food seems like a good thing to me.

Essentially everything that fucked up India with the British during ww2.

If the British provided cheap food, they could actually have avoided the Bengal famine. (Unless you mean some other fuckup I'm not aware of.)

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

Issues for who? The consumer? Or the capitalists?

If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability.

It would hint that it's a shitty product, presuming no foul play by the government and the product is not overpriced (doesn't appear to be).

Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

Government correction how? From suppression I think you mean lowering their price? The scenario you're laying out doesn't make sense.

The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.

You start by making a better product, and you can charge whatever people decide the improved product is worth. It's a good thing that an asshole capitalist can't market a $7 bar of chocolate when a very good quality one is $1. At that price difference, your chocolate better be amazing.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Don't bother trying to correct them. They are convinced its a bad idea because its what they would do if they were in power.