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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 108 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The boomer energy is strong with this one.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

"I graduated high school, got a good job at the Mill, married my high school sweetheart, had five kids, bought a second house with a boat, retired at 60, went insane reading Facebook memes and watching FOX News, then decided to shoot up the Harvest Music Festival in 2017. Why can't you young people do that?"

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If they were boomers then the phd one should've paid off more of that student debt

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The Boomer term has shifted to being about state of mind.

This started after "ok, boomer" caused all these people to out themselves.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 71 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Or education could be free. Just a thought.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

free? people should be paid to get an education

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure if it's still a thing but I knew a girl from Norway who basically went to college from age 18-30 getting like four different degrees because as long as she remained in higher education, the government would keep paying for her education + living expenses.

Not sure if that was the original intent but it sure does result in a highly educated populace.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Norway here: This is kind of how it works, but not quite.

While studying, you get a student loan. 40 % of that loan is automatically "forgiven" (turned into a stipend) as you complete your courses. In order to remain eligible for the loan, you need to maintain a certain progression in your studies, and there's also a limit to how many years you can receive the stipend for (I think it's eight years now). As long as you're studying, the loan doesn't accrue interest, and you don't need to make down payments.

Throughout five years, I received very roughly 200k NOK (≈20k USD) in stipend, and 300k NOK in loans.

Also, a PhD is treated as an ordinary job here. I'm paid about 600k NOK (≈60k USD) per year, which is a bit less than my peers from engineering studies in industry jobs (they get around 700-800), but it's by no means a bad pay. I've been able to afford a small apartment together with my SO on that pay. Hearing about places where people have to take up loans in order to finance taking a phd makes my head spin.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Huh. I just kinda assumed Norway would use the Euro, but TIL it's not even a member of the EU. Weird.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

We are part of the EEA. The agreement between the EU and the remaining EFTA members. (Norway, Iceland, Lichtenstein and Switzerland.) For Norway's part it means we adopt the legislation as national law (we can veto, but seldom happens) and are part of the inner market but not the customs union. Also special agreements on energy (oil) agriculture and fishing. We have no representation in the parliament or the commission. We participate on beurocratic level but cannot vote on anything. (I represent Norway in two 'group of experts" and two administrative cooperation groups) GoE discusses things on a higher level AdCo lower level and market surveillance. We have a voice, but always a little bit apart.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

We have a "complicated" relationship to the EU. There was a vote in the '90s where we decided not to join, and now we're connected through the EEA (which another comment treats in detail). Today, the EU debate is rising again, largely because of the war in Ukraine. However, it seems like public opinion is still marginally opposed to membership due to our somewhat special situation regarding oil, hydropower, and (lack of) agricultural land.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In America you usually do get paid for the PhD, you however get little other support snd the pay is bad

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "little other support"? I don't get any other "support" from my job as a phd than my salary?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Little other support as in it's common to take on more phd candidates than there are resources for leading to issues like needing to fight to get lab time. At least according to some people I know who've been in phd programs here.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Have a friend who was a sort-of perpetual grad student - bouncing from Sweden to Italy to Australia - over about ten years, pursuing a degree in marine biology. Along the way, she contributed thousands of hours of labor to various research teams. Eventually, she got burned out, married a neurologist, and moved to a small house in Queensland. Now she mostly just gardens and raises bunnies, which she is extraordinarily good at thanks to her education.

Was this money wasted or did the universities get exactly what they paid her for? Idk. But it seems a far better way to employ people than what we've done with The Pentagon or ICE.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

From where I am anyways. You do get paid for grad school. You have to TA various things, but you get paid.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago

Students benefits are pretty much that where I live

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It is in first world countries, if we define first world as having good educational system, healthcare system, public transportation…

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The best universities in Brazil, the ones everyone wants to study at and the ones producing cutting edge research... Are all free, they're public universities. The private ones can't compete on most metrics.

So yeah, maybe americans should drop the whole "first world" tag to pretend they're special and rebalance their priorities.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

American public universities used to be free. But a lot of students protested things like racism and the Vietnam War so Ronald Reagan as governor of California and later as president worked hard to ensure that American students had to pay lest they have the time and financial freedom to exercise their rights

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Probably a lot of missing context with this one

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

He did the plumbing for the brother's place.

Set up the toilet to pipe to the kitchen sink. "eat shit" as they say.

shrug

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

anti intellectual propaganda

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Oh. I hadn't read it like that. I thought the brother was a hypocrite because if he has a PhD he SHOULD be able to pay his debts and get a hose (I'm not from the us so I'm guessing that part) but I stead seems to not ba able to manage his own money while criticizing OP

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Oh no PhDs here are like the worst financial choice.

[–] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

College graduates (PhD or otherwise) drowning in debt and not being financially able to pay it off is common enough here in the US that it's a trope, and likely the basis for this "joke".

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 hours ago

I became a homeowner recently and a bunch of people I know just reacted with absolute jealousy and negativity. People suck

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 10 points 15 hours ago

I haven’t been to 9gag in forever, not sure if this is a really bad meme or a great shitpost

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

Pretty huge dick

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 18 hours ago

PH.Deez nuts

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

I have a lot of respect for the people that do it but I couldn't. I have two left hands and am fairly skittish when it comes to human excrement.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 18 hours ago

You haven't lived the Great Australian Dream?

Where would you rather be mate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEt0dXsxORE

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

There’s other hand-craft trades that don’t involve sewage. If you get into the commercial space, there’s a good chance you’d deal with it a lot less if at all since they would need a specialist for biohazards.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's not all just poopoo peepee stuff. A lot of plumbers do mechanical work in commercial buildings, boiler retrofits, repiping, construction. I'm in commercial HVAC and work with a bunch of plumbers whose skills and scope of work have great overlap with mine. I've also helped them out doing boiler retros/repipes. We offer similar services, subcontracting each other to our own customers, just they do more of the gas fired work and fix leaks in heating loops and I do the AC/Refrigeration stuff

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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that didn't happen

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 13 hours ago

Nothing unbelievable about it imo

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

People typically get paid to earn a PhD, so this person's debt likely came from elsewhere, unless they grossly overpaid for their undergraduate education.

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