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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 159 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

No, we'd rather be lost at sea than have to participate in the broken society that makes people need therapy.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I lack the photoshop skills, but uh

The 'plap plap GET PREGNANT' meme, but with a therapist shouting:

'accept what you can't change'

'don't blame yourself for things out of your control'

'oh, the copay is $125'

'you missed the last appointment so we charged you for not canceling in advance'

'im worried you're not taking our sessions seriously'

sorry psych professionals, there is no ethical therapy under capitalism

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 17 points 20 hours ago

i feel vindicated.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The 'plap plap GET PREGNANT' meme, but with a therapist shouting:

h'whut with h'whomb?

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago

there is no ethical therapy under capitalism

Lol

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

100%

But also, go to therapy

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 74 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Just goes to show how insane society has become that you'd rather go to therapy than take a 29 day break by being lost at sea.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 36 points 21 hours ago

29 days away from reality is therapy.

There's a tiny town in northern California called Downieville that my wife and I love to visit. It's maybe 200 people, sits on the convergence of two decent sized rivers, and there is pretty much no cell service. Even just a week of sitting by that river is enough to fully recharge me and not want to break everything for at least 4 months.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 65 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh fuck off. Therapy won’t help with… *gestures at everything*

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 43 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. It’s more like “people would rather be lost at sea than live in a modern society”.

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[–] grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 45 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

Quit crying. You'll be fine. Don't be such a crybaby. Man up. Put on your big boy pants. Boys don't cry. Boo hoo, gonna cry about it? Gonna cry like a little girl? Be a man. Face your problems like a man. Crying doesn't help anything. Take it like a man. Don't be a baby. You're acting like a girl. Grow a pair. Suck it up and move on.

Why will men do literally anything besides talk about their feelings?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

"men hate therapy"

Yeah not really. You just get beaten down after trying several therapists and paying a lot and not feeling better. Even if you went through that once, it's very discouraging.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I have a great therapist these days who has helped me a lot. I still hate therapy. I did finally figure out why, though. Because, with the exception of therapy and a couple of really great people, everyone I've ever been vulnerable in front of has weaponized it against me. So even though I know my therapist wouldn't actually do that I'm still waiting on it to come back and bite me.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago

Been dumped by three women, the day after they saw me cry. Good news! My wife is fine with it, as rare as crying is, and comforts me. But y'all women don't have a good track record in my book.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, the weaponization factor is real.

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Therapy doesn't help much if you have no power over the root cause

[–] devAlot@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Totally get where you're coming from. If you’re staring down the barrel of something massive like trauma, abuse, an entire system that's completely fucked and seems way bigger than you and the others fighting it are or ever will be, it feels like no matter how much "self care" you do, the external crap stays the same, right?? It's fucking maddening.

But idk, to me, therapy (actual, good therapy with a non-shitty therapist) isn’t about giving us power over the root cause, not always anyways because like you said, sometimes it's impossible. Imo, a lot of times it’s about helping people stop handing more power to "it" (whatever it may be) than "it" already has. We don’t get to choose what happens to us sometimes, but we do get to choose how we respond to it, how we carry it, how we let it affect us, how we pass our pain onto others. It can be a super uncomfortable, yet extremely liberating, paradox. Like, okay, I might not be able to slay the dragon here (sorry, nerd here), but I can sure as hell stop feeding it in whatever way I was (constant unhealthy thought patterns, my own actions or the lack thereof, etc).

Therapy doesn't fix the world for sure, but it can help us decide which parts of the suffering are necessary, or which parts we might be unconsciously choosing to carry longer than we need to. Idk, that’s where our power really is, imo.

Edit: fixed some typos

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[–] Snowies@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago) (3 children)

The environment we created for ourselves takes advantage of our evolution and uses our biology against us.

Food is drowned in sugar to get us addicted. Social media is designed to keep us angry and upset. Entertainment is a recycled polished turd, designed to take no risks and challenge nothing and leave us only with shallow amusement.

We are losing our respect for the profound, our empathy for the other, and our curiosity for the unknown.

We have made a world of numbing poison for ourselves. A 29 day separation sounds like the most powerful “therapy” we could have tbh.

[–] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

i was a camp host for a summer and it was possibly the best summer of my life. no power, no water, no internet, minimal contact with people, cleaning toilets, and spending half of my day in a kayak.

[–] theonetruedroid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

That sounds like a great way to spend a summer. I wouldn't mind running water but I'd probably learn to appreciate it after not having it for a few months.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Theraphy, when it works, only solves internal causes of one's pain.

29 days away from present day society, will for a while suspend the external causes of one's pain.

(Which is why the former usually doesn't fully solve everything: the external shit, which often is what indirectly created much of the internal shit via things like trauma and coping mechanisms, is still there and pushing you)

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

This is therapy. if I could just drop out of everything for 29 days I’d come back refreshed and Zen as fuck.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm getting major surgery in two weeks and I'll be on short term disability for an entire month afterwards. I'm honestly really looking forward to the time off, even if it'll be full of physical suffering. My burnout outweighs the physical trauma of having nearly all of my reproductive organs removed.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I did the same, back during COVID lockdown. I think my body just started producing endorphins, because I stopped taking the painkillers and was totally at peace while everybody lost their minds over the isolation. I played The Outer Wilds and accepted that everything must end.

[–] evening_push579@feddit.nu 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t that called vacation? Just don’t bring any communications device ;)

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know many people that can afford a 29 day vacation (I'm in the US, and yes I'm jealous of what I hear about European benefits)

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Therapy has become the new buzzword to prescribe to any individualistic issue because most people don't know what it is or who its for, they just think it's a silver bullet solution to everything because everybody else says so... but it's not.

Therapy is great for specific people with specific disorders, it's there to help provide these people with solutions and treatments to improve their conditions. It's not meant to be a replacement for a social circle or to fix the problems in your life.

Not to mention that therapy is either expensive or hard to access or the therapist you do get to see are usually not that great. It is very hard and very rare to find a good therapist that's affordable and nearby. Even then, a therapist can only do so much. They're trained to work through common disorders using several established methods, but not much beyond that. Therapists can help you overcome your anxiety, but they can't help you find meaningful relationships.

This is doubly true for men, because a lot of men are facing issues related to finding purpose and meaning in life, and that's something that's beyond the scope of therapy. Maybe these issues could be resolved as a result of treating a disorder, but that's not always the case. The point is that therapy is not a magical solution, and it's not going to solve huge societal problems like men turning their backs on society.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

You say men are turning their backs on society. I would argue it's the other way round. Modern society has lots of problems unfortunately, and can be quite hostile especially to men.

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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago

29 days without having to work all day long, deal with chores and family and whatever. And then sleep a couple of hours to do it again. This has nothing to deal with this person going to therapy.

[–] Distropia@endlesstalk.org 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize that is a comedy site, right?

[–] Distropia@endlesstalk.org 5 points 16 hours ago

But that's the only nonpartisan site I could find!

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

therapy costs money

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

My best friend spent a week in the hospital with a life-threatening condition. Besides the almost dying part, it was the most relaxing and life-refocusing event of their adult life and they're grateful to have experienced it. A forced reset and some compulsory solitude can be a blessing sometimes.

Were I to ever go to prison, I think I would personally love to get some solitary confinement time.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Depends on the kind of "lost at sea"

In a perfectly functioning oceanworthy boat stocked with food, but the GPS fell overboard and I have no idea where I am so I'm going to sail West as much as I can until I hit land, then sail counter-clockwise around the coast until I find something I can identify or someone I can ask? Sure let's go.

Ship sank, I'm alone in an inflatable raft with a flare gun and a blinkenlight? Nah you go ahead.

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[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Eh. Therapy is overrated. Tried it a bunch of times and it’s not nearly as effective for me as just… thinking.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

29 days "lost" at sea, is therapy for all of the external bullshit we deal with every fucking day.

By "we" I mean people in society, not just men. Everyone struggles with making their way in "this world" we built for ourselves. We made it to be this horrible.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

If things didn't get bad, I could absolutely see myself saying the same thing.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Then again, have you seen reality?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

1.8/10 on IMDB

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly if I had the means and skills to survive that semi-comfortably, I'd be down for making that an annual tradition.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 20 hours ago

Therapy, trying to make you seem ok with the absolute bullshit you have to deal with which you know is wrong.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

"lost at sea"

mf land right over there

????

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