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Federal prosecutors have filed charges against at least two people for allegedly damaging Tesla property.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 124 points 1 day ago (2 children)

of course, gotta protect that capital property.

the united states stands for a single purpose today: fuck humans; accumulate wealth

thanks, conservatives!

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

So you're telling me that the US's purpose is, "Fuck bitches, get money"?

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 points 10 hours ago

Today? That's the principle this country was built on.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago

The thing about juries is, they don't have to justify their 'not guilty' verdict.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Teslas (inanimate objects) have more rights than citizens do

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How long did the Jan 6th insurrectionists get again? Fuck this.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

Teslas have more rights than people

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why is this a federal case to begin with? Seems like it should be in state court.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 25 points 1 day ago

Musk bought the US presidency for over $250 million, that's why.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Because someone's resisting Musk, that's why.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This whole time I can't help but think...

What's the point in burning unsellable cars that take up real estate on sales lots?

If you burn them Elmo gets the MSRP (probably more) from insurance, if you don't burn them, no one is buying it anyways. The few that are, use the 0% down 0% apr loans and Tesla loses money on those.

Setting a Tesla on fire in 2025 makes Musk more money than buying one.

Let them rot on the lot.

Quick edit:

If you want something that will help, organize protests at the manufacturing plants.

We don't need to protest stores that have zero buyers anyway...

But shutting down and restarting production lines is insanely expensive. And Tesla workers are almost guaranteed to hate their job already. That's the weak point, that's where pressure should be applied.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Repeated targeting of them for vandalism makes them a liability for insurance companies. If the insurance rates go up or they become uninsurable the sales numbers will decline. No need sales plus less on the road paying the ridiculous subscription fees or paying for charging means less money for Tesla.

Plus, Nazis can fuck off.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

....

Ok

So, in that clip the joker had taken money from someone, and is destroying it.

You get that?

An unsold Tesla, if set on fire, will make Tesla the same as if you gave them cash for MSRP.

That is more profit then if you bought one because they're sold under MSRP right now for 0% interest.

Does just.... Literally anything I am saying make sense to you yet?

The joker destroyed wealth, but destroying an unsold Tesla gives musk more money than if you purchased it

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Everyone gets what you're saying. It's not a difficult concept. What they're trying to tell you is that the symbolism is more important than the value of some cars. The symbolism is destroying an entire company. The Tesla car brand is likely permanently toxic. He's the richest man in the world. Do you honestly think people think that destroying some cars will bankrupt him? He can afford an entire navy. They're saying that taking away sources of wealth (mostly inflated) will hit him where it hurts. In his fragile man baby ego.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

The symbolism is destroying an entire company.

Musk doing multiple Nazi salutes on national television at CPAC did more, his rampant cuts of the government did more to hurt Tesla's image.

Especially because those are the big reason for protests....

Like, what you're doing is saying the reason people don't like a convicted murderer is they were convicted.

That is them facing consequences.

The protests are a consequence not a cause.

Do you honestly think people think that destroying some cars will bankrupt him?

I have tried explaining multiple times how that makes him money...

How would something that makes someone money ever bankrupt them?

That's a rhetorical question, I'm not wasting anymore time on unproductive things

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They key is to do what you are going to do after the vehicle has been purchased. Muskrat already got his money, so too late there. Insurance will cover the owner's losses, but they key is that they and others will avoid the brand in the future. Who wants to buy a vehicle that is a target for vandalism, especially after it has already happened to you or someone you know?

Leave older Teslas alone. Those poor people are stuck with a Swasticar they probably bought when they thought they were doing something good. IncEl Caminos though...

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The point is to tank the brand. Do you want to own a car that is gonna get set on fire?

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jury nullification? What’s that?

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'll tell you what it is... The top searched term of 2025.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a cruel and unusual punishment.

The Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” This amendment prohibits the federal government from imposing unduly harsh penalties on criminal defendants, either as the price for obtaining ...

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Not if it's labeled as terrorism!

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Whoever maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other personal or real property in whole or in part owned or possessed by, or leased to, the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or any institution or organization receiving Federal financial assistance, shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both.

I imagine this is the part of the statue she is having folks charged under. Notice it normally only applies to destruction of the United States government property, but because Tesla is receiving so much financial assistance from the government, I guess it counts.

Assuming they used fire anyway.

If anyone else is curious it's malicious destruction of property. In the federal code.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

by means of fire or an explosive

Instant-rust it is then.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tesla is not owned by the government, the cars being burnt are not leased to the Feds, and it's unclear if Tesla is receiving Federal financial assistance in the sense meant in this law. So the law doesn't appear to fit the facts of the case. Looks like a malicious prosecution.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I hope the defense attorneys run circles around it. I think Bondi is overreaching and that she's more concerned about politics than getting a conviction. Hopefully that hurts those cases.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 day ago

The way conservatives value property over people is so fucking gross.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Hear that? If you're gonna go to jail, might as well go big.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

I mandate that the DOJ go fuck it’s self.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So anyone who damages my property will also.get 5 years?

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No just the property of the very rich dude, who is attacking our system of government to benefit himself and his wealthy friends...

And the only outlet people have is the destruction of the property of said dude because the other idiot is the president...

This is only going to get worse... And the fact these companies with board members aren't or can't get this guy out is very telling of something...

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So anyone who damages my property will also.get 5 years?

Probably. It's what the gal who burned down that abortion clinic in Wyoming a few years ago got.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if I don't own an abortion clinic?

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Where do you get your hot dog ingredients then?

[–] halfempty@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keeping negative news about Tesla in the headlines. DOJ doesn't realize they are helping crash Tesla stock.

Meh. They're just reinforcing their commitment to stand up for capital/tesla owners. If I was fash, this would be a positive story and I would feel safer. Like the government was taking my problems seriously.