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[–] Randomdude@lemm.ee 104 points 2 days ago (7 children)

No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 59 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Can confirm; am vampire

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago

Can also confirm, killed vampire last week. Tree.

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So you need a non-vampire judge to enter the house and produce the warrant from inside, got it!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? 🧛‍♂️

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Y'all this one is simple.

Legally, yes.

Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is the answer I choose to accept.

“Can I enter your home to arrest you?”

“I don’t know officer squints eyes ..can you?”

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

"I am not resisting arrest. I am merely standing inside my home to be arrested. Why would I step outside to be arrested?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 38 points 2 days ago

Legally? Yes. Physically? No.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

[–] async_amuro@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!

If you’re like me, you’re frustrated with vampire law. Here at Vampire Law, we help to keep your invitations clear and any misunderstandings cleared up.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

A contract signed under duress is invalid.

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The power that repels the vampire is supposedly god, which is supposedly stronger than the US Gov (citation needed) meaning no.

However a good question is what exactly is a home and does it need to be sanctified? Can a Vampire enter a graveyard blessed by a cardinal when a groundskeeper lives on the far side?

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

similar question.

do vampires need visas to enter a country?

can they cross borders freely?

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

if you surround the earth in a megastructure shaped like a house do all vampires on earth instantly die?

[–] zell565@lemmus.org 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think it's the Dresden Files mythology? But I always liked the premise that it's not the house that prevents them. It's the magic of a home. They could walk into some house a squatter is living in for a few days with no issues, but a home where people truly live make it their own, have families, memories...that's what gives the threshold power.

IIRC, even in that universe, a vampire can force it's way in, but the threshold strips it of most of its power if not invited.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I doubt that this would affect vampires at all. The rule is that they can't enter your house without being invited, not that they have to move if you build a house around them.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

wait

is property lines the same as a house?

can you sublet a room on your house and hide there?

can you surround a vampire with houses and he cannot escape?

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Hey, I'm an amateur vampirologist. Feel free to tell me to go F myself if you disagree, but here are my thoughts.

In most media I've seen it's not the property line, it's specifically the house.

Subletting leads to an interesting conundrum that I'll have to explore more but on its face I think it checks out. I also think it's very silly and would love to see a work that explored this.

As I understand it, you'd have to build them pretty close together so it couldn't escape, especially if it can turn into mist or fly, but theoretically I think that would work too if you could build fast enough.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

i won't tell you to fuck yourselves, I'll do it myself ..

next questions

a cave can be a house, can a vampire enter a uninhabited cave, but if next day someone moves in, will the vampire be unable to enter?

if a vampire inherits a house, no one formally invited him in, could he enter, as he is the legal owner and therefore only need his invitation?

do tents count as housing? what about this:

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could you wear a tent like that and vampires would be unable to bite you?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Imagine a vampire getting frustrated with a realtor because this is the fourth time they've arrived at a house they're interested in to do a walkthrough but the owners aren't home and the realtor, as someone who doesn't have ties to the memories created in that home, can't invite him in.

This also has fascinating implications for house flippers. If you only live there while working on it, have you not amassed enough "home power" to keep vampires out? Does the power of your previous home follow you to a new address if it's mostly the same decor?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We could then use vampires to determine who owns a house, if a house is abandoned for a while and there are squatters.

the squaters and legal owner invite vampires in, if the legal owner vampire cant, he looses the right to the house, if the squatter's vamp cant get in, they get evicted.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Must be dumb friends. The answer is no.

A warrant isn't permission from the owner, or anyone inside the house.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

but it's a cop so likely won't be following the rules even for a vampire

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A vampire police officer would have to abide by both rules. They would need a warrant and an invite. A warrant is legal permission, but not an invite.

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

[–] fleebleneeble@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I think the vampire physically could enter because the warrant is basically allowing them to enter a space they otherwise would need express permission from the person that dwells there. I haven't known a cop otherwise to serve the warrant and then just stand awkwardly waiting for permission to enter afterwards. If we are to believe that vampires exist in this context and follow "traditional" rules, you best believe a vampire could be in any given profession, especially because night work is more prevalent than ever. There would certainly be a vampire cop who works at night and takes advantage of the way warrants work.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Vampires are older than property law, I think the power that keeps them out comes from physically dwelling in the place. As long as they're still living there, regardless of what a judge decided, it's their home as far as a vampire is concerned. Otherwise they could just ask each other for permission to enter someone else's house. I'm trying to remember if this came up in Buffy...

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[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I think hearth magic doesn't work that way. When you live somewhere and set up a presence, it becomes your domain. A warrant doesn't take that away from you. You need permission to travel safely into someone's domain.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

he could enter but he wouldn't without permission as his vampyrical torment exists deeper than his protect and sever police man gentle nudges.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Police don't typically execute search warrants alone. If I knew that specific policeman was a vampire I would address his partner(s) individually and invite them in, but I would not invite the vampire. Explaining to them why he was staying outside would be his problem.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In this same vein, if a vamp-cop's partner entered the home, then invited the vamp-cop in, would the vamp-cop be able to enter then?

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[–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

My wife asked me this just this week! I said that it would depend on how far the vampire is 'removed' from vampires "tradition". As in, if they were a more recent conversion, maybe more archaic methods like legalistic language wouldn't be enough and a vampire cop could enter with just a warrant. But I think an older vampire-cop who would be more bound by whatever lore suits the trespassing curse/stigma, would still be unable to enter your home without your express permission. Its about domain, not so much ownership.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

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[–] alienzx@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A... Men... Let's start with grammar.

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