I can tell you, American liberals are just as much to blame for fascism as the uneducated morons brainwashed by it.
"D-don't blame people who allowed fascism to take over... that's mean... but FUCK those who tried to stop it, literally as bad as fascists!"
About the level of discourse I expect from Lemmy at this point.
But it's closer to the original 'Founding Fathers' this way
Yeah, but first you were talking about how the general populace was going right
They subsequently elected Starmer, of all people, didn't they?
This idea that success (which maybe doesn’t require to form the next government) translates to a higher share in votes might be a statistical thing, but it’s not constructive, it just leads to opportunism.
I'm sorry, if Corbyn didn't form a government, as majority or coalition partner, didn't move politics in the UK left, nor politics in his own party left, nor moved demographics in the UK left... what kind of success are we looking at, here?
For the record, I'm not blaming Corbyn for this loss. Far from it. I'm only saying that going left is not enough
And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less "They made minor economic concessions to the working class!" and more "They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS"
It's hand-drawn, just mocking GenAI pics.
Though AI pics sometimes still have trouble with text.
You made no real argument whatsoever originally other than saying Obama wasnt a neoliberal president, which is just baseless and stupid.
Would you like to re-read my original response and point out where I said anything about the neoliberal characterization of Obama, or is that too arduous and trying a task to attempt?
You refuse to asses information from an article that well predates the Palestinian Genocide by a longshot and has nothing to do with the conflict whatsoever.
That's not one of the several genocides that Jacobin denies, and thus not one of the ones I was talking about. Though, for that matter, the article certainly does not predate 1948.
Best of luck living with your head in the sand
What irony.
I mean, there are almost certain some who are susceptible to that same dumbassery. But enough who aren't already voting to cripple the GOP?
I don't know what the solution is, and I'm not saying don't find something to hammer the dumb-drum on to get the rats of Hamburg to follow us to a slightly-better-world. I'm just saying that it's unlikely to be any single or easy solution unless there's some radical new coalition combination of the electorate that we're just missing.
Oh fuck off dude, youre pathetic and you know it.
For... objecting to something that you said, and that you have been entirely incapable of mounting even a nominal defense of, probably because you're aware that it was said as bad-faith bullshit with no grounding in reality?
Uh, okay.
If I wanted campist apologia from genocide deniers, I could read Jacobin rag on my own time. I'll pass on someone trying to use it as a replacement for having thoughts of their own. I note that you didn't actually respond to what I actually objected to,
He massively carried water for the whole “if I made it, anyone can” and “black people suffer from a culture of poverty” type of nonsense,
But I guess that would require you to defend the points you make, and wouldn't that just be an awful fate?
"Just cry harder, liberals are as bad as fascists" - acceptable, normal
[mocking this view] - UNACCEPTABLE, rude, how dare you be this unproductive 😭
Fucking listen to yourself, and maybe reflect on who and what you choose to tone police.