I really hope for once in his life he developed a conscience and actually realised that he's not loved by the whole country. Indeed maybe even realises that he's very much hated by literally millions. One can but hope.
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I wasn't sure it was the right choice at first, but I now realize it was brilliant.
Originally Posted By u/hook3m13 At 2025-06-15 07:50:05 PM | Source
He will never realize that. That’s not even a concept for him.
He knows it, and it kills him inside all the time. It fuels everything he does.
But he won, there is no way he won’t think he is right for the next 3.5 years
We'll be lucky if we only have to suffer through his incompetence for 3.5 more years.
He will be lucky to last another year, things could be looking up. The Reaper is only a few steps behind him as we speak
Yeah I don't know if Vance will be much better.
Vance has like zero charisma. At least Trump was good at channeling some people’s anger, but Vance can’t do that in the same way. He seems too stuck up for the idiots that liked Trump bc he “talked like a normal guy” (re: idiot) but he’s also too annoying for everyone else. I’ve never met a Trumpie that actually liked Vance. The biggest danger with Vance is that he still has his mental faculties, unlike Trump. And that is quite a big danger
Tldr things are shitty either way, just in different ways
I think the whole Republican Party knows this, and would like to set it up to rule without elections. Yet another thing Trump telegraphed during the election.
That would actually be the worst case scenario, if he dies then people who are psychopathic fascists without narcissistic personality disorders and obsessive needs to be liked will have power. We need this cunt to survive this term or we are never going to get this regime out of the seat of power.
With his NPD that’s not possible. He’ll just blame others and make up whatever suits him.
if only the election results would reflect that
As someone who was raised by narcissists, I can assure you that it is literally impossible for Trump to reach any sort of epiphany.
You cannot guilt trip people like him; his brain simply can not process self-reflection. In his own mind, he is flawless; his shortcomings will always be someone else's fault. He'll just blame his campaign team or the democrats for the low turnout. Or just pretend that it was a "big beautiful parade" and brag about his "crowd size" again.
He already looked small. But it makes them look like bigger people.
Has (co-located) counter protesting ever been generally useful?
Yes. In the rather famous case of the American Nazi party (like, the OGs before the GOP took over that status) in the 1970s when they wanted to hold a really in Skokie, a Jewish neighborhood of Chicago, were denied a permit on the basis of obvious harm, sued about it, and they ended up being represented by the ACLU on principle of free demonstration up to the Supreme Court where they won (and in turn the ACLU nearly collapsed from the popular fury at their willingness to do that). The case gained significant national attention and the people of Chicago organized a massive counterprotest to what ended up being a minimal Nazi turnout where they were unequivocally shamed and entirely unable to intimidate the Jewish locals they hated so much.
In short, counterprotests can be an act of solidarity against hatred. They have their time and place.
A more recent, however small, example were the countless Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) counter-protests. For the uninitiated, the WBC was a notoriously anti-LGBT hate group that staged many protests at funerals and other events. Once the internet caught wind of this, people began to counter-protest in greater numbers, leading to more and more public shaming of their hateful message.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Counter-protests
Hell, even biker gangs got in on this and would show up at veteran's funerals to shield them from the WBC.
Right! There was a point in the middle of it where if you squinted your eyes and turned your head a little, you could almost believe that the WBC was trying to push people into organizing like this. Their whole thing was so over-the-top, it beggared belief sometimes.
I think this is true, in general, for protests that are based in promoting prejudice. Counter-protesting bigots shows them that their hateful, closed-minded views are unpopular and unacceptable.
Locally, there was a big pushback against teaching inclusivity in schools (2SLGBTQ+ families being represented at all, basically), and a protest was organized. And across the street from them were literally 10× as many people counter protesting to support 2SLGBTQ+ rights. There hasn't been a single anti-tans bigots protest locally since.
"No tolerance for intolerance" is a powerful counter-protest message.
Wait is that what the Blues Brothers were referencing? When they were blocked by a bunch of demonstrating Nazis and ran them off the bridge saying "I hate Illinois Nazis". Didn't realize it was a reference
Imagine protesters and counter-protesters reading each others signs and then going "Wait, these claims and slogans reveal a fundamental disagreement! We should sit down and find common ground for this discussion and figure out how to resolve this apparent difference in values and opinions so that we can find what is true and good."
I think with social media and how quickly images can get around switching to a less centralized way of protesting, especially something that is so widespread across your culture. It’s not just one specific thing or person can actually be a really beneficial strategy. It’s not just about disrupting the work of law makers and getting on the big three news at night it’s about going viral and the more citiesthat protest the more opportunities you have to make that happen. It’s about making protesting, go viral literally.
Also there's no way in hell I'd buy a plane ticket to DC lol
I wasn’t even sure if that shitshow would be televised. Did anyone actually attend or watch?