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Is this some USA joke I'm too European to understand?
What, you don't have that? My electric bill has a rate, a rate for the network, a subscription fee, electricity green taxes, and sales tax. I'm European.
The entire breakdown of my electricity bill in the UK is a rate for energy use, a standing charge that is independent of usage, and VAT. Strictly speaking I've got two different usage rates because my heating is on a separate meter, but that's an unusual situation
Australia checking in. We have the price per Kw, and the number of Kw consumed.
Also Australian. I get a $0.87 per day supply charge plus kWh used.
Stage one Stage two Service fees Other (E)
Here it boils down to:
Nothing beats Portugal:
Audiovisual contribution? I love it 10/10 no notes
It's to finance the Portuguese version of BBC. Called RTP. The funny part is that it's also used for the sales tax calculation, so there is a tax fee
Usually taxes and transmission fees are rolled into the kWh Price you are shown when enrolling into the contract
Land of the fee and the home of the slave.
Yeah probably. I’m in the US. Here’s how my bill is broken down and how much it costs for 1000kWh:
Generation Service Charge: $117
Customer Charge: $10 flat fee
Distribution Charge: $94
Transition Charge: -$1
Transmission Charge: $45
Net Meter Recovery Surcharge: $16
Revenue Decoupling Charge: -$1
Distributed Solar Charge: $4
Renewable Energy Charge: $0.50
Energy Efficiency Charge: $31
Electric Vehicle Program: $1
720kWh, Germany:
Total 450€
Wtf that's expensive
Yeah we're working on avoiding any kind of "Energiewende"
You're allowed to buy electricity from a separate broker than your "power company" so they split the bill between power usage and service fees plus there's state and local taxes.
Being allowed to on paper and actually being able to are wildly different things. They're monopolies in most areas that get away with it by stringently denying that fact. Same with cable companies.
I'm curious about this, would you be willing to elaborate?
Where I live we don't have a choice of electricity providers for my home. Are you talking about states that have deregulated energy markets?
Yes, they're called retail electric suppliers. Some have offers to lock in a fixed Price for a year and others have variable rates. Then you can choose to have power billed separately from delivery or not.
Your country had better have a state owned grid, with a state run retailer, else this is still the same sort of shit, just without hidden fees.
Sincerely, an annoyed Victorian/Australian that wishes their electricity was just managed by the state.
There may be no hidden fees where I'm from, but when there's a private company with a monopoly, what's the difference?
Capitalism/privatisation is such a scam
:(
My bill in Illinois isn't like this. There's a couple fees to stay hooked into the grid and then a flat rate per unit energy
Variable rate would be nicer but I'm too busy to set it up
In the UK it's all rolled up into the "service charge". Including the "loads of other companies couldn't manage themselves properly and went bust and we had to take on their customers fee"
Same in Germany, it's called "base fee"