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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 207 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago

This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 130 points 1 day ago

Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don't have a right to electricity, or even water. They'll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

or even water

Already did.

We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can't seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support "industry" and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).

I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they're being logically consistent but I can't seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 59 points 1 day ago

Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.

And now look how well that's turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey's paw...

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

Let that sink in.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Due process seems to just be a recommendation.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Recommendation???

No.

It's a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago

bottle water companies would love this, as would the oil giants

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago

For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they're not completely doa.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

didn't many European countries remove People's hand for theft a few centuries ago?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

more importantly because of accused. Just accused.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 19 hours ago

They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it....