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submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 96 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Your belief of human goodness went up? Have you been living under a peaceful rock?

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's also a little inconsistent with at least one other belief on the graph.

Occam's razor? Maybe their growth in belief in people's stupidity explains why their belief in human goodness increased. Instead, they just believe people are incompetent rather than willfully bad? Curious what the mechanism for it looking like a titration curve is though.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

it correlates with love, so that checks out.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Most people are really pleasant. That creates a power vacuum where the worst are usually in seats of power.

[–] wax@feddit.nu 5 points 3 hours ago

*Most people are really pleasant, unless inconvenienced in some way

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

Gotta go back to working retail to fix this mindset.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

the awful big caused the local good to come out here. my community is weird for a lot of ways i refuse to specify for reasons

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 34 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Anyone whose "ghosts" isn't at zero, as an adult, is someone I'm not going to be trusting on any subject.

Ditto "aliens", if we interpret it as "extraterrestrials that have been to Earth".

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

My friends cousins are all convinced they saw ghosts when they were kids. They also had an uncle who frequently played tricks on them. These two things are unrelated apparently

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ditto "aliens", if we interpret it as "extraterrestrials that have been to Earth".

This is an important distinction.

100% chance there is extraterrestrial life out there somewhere

0% chance any of it has come to visit

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 hour ago

0% chance any of it has come to visit

0% chance any intelligent aliens have come to visit. There is a non-0% chance that there have been some microbes on an asteroid. There are some variations on the panspermia theory that suggest that life didn't even originate in this star system. There's no evidence for any of it of course but it's possible.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

hey, i have a ghost that lives in my microwave.

first a few things you should know. my entire town was built on an american indian burial ground. like, starting in the 70s they'd have the tribe come out for every new development and help relocate artifacts to [redacted fuck you i ain't telling] and our house is legit burial ground. not cursed burial ground or anything. anyways we have this ghost that turns on our microwave from time to time, seemingly randomly. I named him Smudgy, because we have one of those touchscreen control thingies and i noticed he's active whenever someone with greasy fingers has been using the microwave. and he's really easy to shut up with a soapy washcloth.

i "believe" in ghosts. it's harmless fun.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

my entire town was built on an american indian burial ground

I see why would you believe in ghosts

he's active whenever someone with greasy fingers has been using the microwave. and he's really easy to shut up with a soapy washcloth.

huh

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Real adulthood is knowing there's no logical way to unconditionally prove those particular negatives. What you do with that information is another discussion.

Edit: Also if anybody is interested in reading up in an absolutely fascinating phenomenon, this was a topic that came up during my hospice / palliative care rotations. This article in particular is a systematic review from last year.

One of the most fascinating things about this phenomenon is that it's markedly different from the hallucinations seen with psychosis and delirium (which I'm more familiar with, my specialty being psychiatry). In particular the person experiencing it presents with orientation and cognition that is otherwise completely logical, linear, and otherwise intact.

A patient with psychosis often presents with poor understanding of their situation overall, such as not knowing where they are, not remembering recent events, or sometimes not even recognizing themselves. Their speech also usually presents with either thought blocking / poverty of thought, or the opposite—tangentiality / flight of ideas where their statements don't logically follow each other.

Meanwhile patients reporting death visions are typically able to accurately recall where they are, what has been happening, what is likely to happen next, and retain the ability to have linear and reality based discussions. They just also report seeing deceased family or pets, religious figures, etc.

Fascinating topic.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

End-of-life visions are Santa cosplaying as people's dead relatives, as he's known to only be visible to those he wishes to be visible to

And, of course, as a real adult you know there is no logical way to unconditionally disprove this particular statement about Santa

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Fuck that’s stupid, how the hell could you believe in that kind of incoherent nonsense?

It’s not Santa, you fucking dolt, he doesn’t exist, it’s Mothman. For fuck’s sake.

Edit: Who the hell is taking this seriously enough to downvote?

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Now this answer I will take. Me and my husband have matching booty shorts that say "goblin" and "mothman" on the respective derrieres.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

No one's asking anyone to prove a negative, there's just zero case for a positive.

You can not believe in ghosts because there's zero evidence they exist and compassionately support someone at the end of their life who's experiencing deathbed visions at the same rime

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Apparently the other commenter can't.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't believe in love more than gravity. Gravity has always been there for me to bring me back down to Earth.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Gravity is globist propaganda, wake up!

/j because Poe's law

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like the deeper you get into physics, the more that statement makes sense. 😅

Now I’m studying physn’tics instead. trying to clear my mind of what the “observer” will be up to next

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Funny, the thing I believe less and less in as I age is human goodness. Must be a generational thing.

Also, gravity seems to be increasing every morning.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Human goodness and society are two different things. There are many great people that do amazing things that don't it for credit or recognition or money. Most go unnoticed.

Society on the other hand is crazy and greedy.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Human goodness should plummet as well

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 51 minutes ago

Someone want suggested that the rise in belief in human goodness is a function of the rise in belief of human incompetence. When you start recognizing that people frequently do stupid bad things not because they are bad, but because they are stupid, your heart softens a bit with regards to their intent.

Anti-abortion is a great example. The majority of anti-abortion people genuinely believe that a zygote is an innocent human life, and terminating it is literally murder. If that's what they believe, why wouldn't they do everything in their power to stop it? People are murdering innocent babies!

The more you get to know people, the more you start believing in Hanlon's razor. Most of the "bad" people aren't bad, they're just good people with stupid beliefs.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Your belief in Santa went up? I mean, as long as it helps you avoid the "naughty list", I guess that's alright, lol.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are three periods in a man's life:

  • he believes in Santa
  • he doesn't believe in Santa
  • he is Santa

I've got the belly already, I'm just waiting on the disposable income!

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Likely for kids. You gotta "believe again"

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I'd assume it's belief in him physically existing as a kid then translating to Saint Nicholas or spirit of christmas, but staying low to represent that it's shifted.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Wow your love went up so dramatically. Mine is the opposite in a way.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

I really like the idea of telling people that I believe in ghosts more than myself

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

For me the society's ability not to destroy itself is at an all time high, but my light blue would be 'the idea that society is sophisticated and high functioning'

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Getting older and seeing that it hasn't happened yet xD

I now see the checks and balances in place to prevent society from actually destroying itself. Everything is more managed/controlled than you'd think it is, in a typical "western country" like the USA or Britain.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago

You dont see the coordinated efforts of several right-wing billionaires to influence elections and public thought through corruption and social media, as well as the actions of private equity firms swallowing up any market that lets them, raising the prices on basic things like food and housing.... all that, doesn't frighten you?

I hope you're right, but I feel like we're barely prepared for what's coming next.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

CO2 ppm just keep rising, little by little. Covid response showed we could do a lot more, but we just don't want to.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 6 points 7 hours ago

Every year I believe that my faith in humanity can't get any lower. And every year I'm proven wrong.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Human goodness and ghosts are down for me, aliens is up.

Now I have to listen to “I believe in a thing called love” by the darkness

[–] X@piefed.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Ah, good ole gravity. No matter where you go, there it is.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Boo insufficient shit

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

I want to believe 🛸