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I hear people say things like “if Obama (or anyone left of Republicans) did what Trump did, there would be hell to pay.”

Why isn’t that argument taken more seriously by people on the left as an implicit admission that the left is politically weaker or less effective at wielding power?

If one side “can’t get away with” actions that the other can, doesn’t that suggest a real imbalance rather than moral superiority?

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[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 96 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why isn’t that argument taken more seriously by people on the left as an implicit admission that the left is politically weaker or less effective at wielding power?

The issue is not the left being weaker, the issue is with the right being corrupt as fuck and never prosecuting their own, even when they commit war crimes or rape kids. Whereas the left, at least pretends to care when someone from the party does some crazy shit and they do prosecute their own.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Oh come on now, the dems give everyone on their side a pass. Look at Al Franken, what he did was way worse than anything in the Epstein files and got off scott free.

Er, wait…that is what happened, right?

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 68 points 7 hours ago

When people say that, they aren't implying the left are are morally superior. They're implying the right has double standards. That the right is only interested in holding politicians on the left accountable, while giving politicians on the right free pass to do whatever.

It's obviously true, and it's a problem for the left, but it's a problem of the right.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, holding politicans responsible is a strength not a weakness.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well they barely do that either when in power, I think that's why I see people talking about the "ratchet effect" so much this year.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

they just go after low hanging and inconsequential fruit... like Al Franken.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 43 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's seen as a problem for everyone.

If someone wins a sports tournament, and we later discover they had cheated, we don't ask the other competitors why they weren't smart enough or strong enough to cheat.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think people who aren't cheating get to compete at that level so they wouldn't get the chance to ask. They don't get the opportunity

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This tells me that you are assuming everyone is cheating, and thus cheating is not only excusable, but necessary.

I disagree. Most people are not cheaters, and more cheating does not create fairness, just more assholes.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Most people are not cheaters. They're saying most or all politicians on the national level are cheaters. Seems like everyone but Bernie and AOC. idk how cheater-y Romney was.

I think carter was actually honest. That's why the right hates him so much.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Carter was a a good person and put forth good policies.

That's why he's seen as weak by everyone including democrats/left. Good policy and good actions make everyone feel bad about themselves. Carter also asked Americans to make sacrifices and inconveneince themselves for the greater good... which is a huge political no no. Americans love convenience above all else and gladly sacrifice their children's happiness for lower taxes and cheaper gas.

Part of what makes Trump so popular is his unhinged assholery makes people feel good because he gives them permission to embrace their shittier selves.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Completely forgetting the Iran Crisis.

The hostages were on TV ever night. There was massive pressure on Carter to free them.

Reagan did a back door deal with Iran, and the hostages were released the day he was inaugurated. Then Reagan became Iran's worst enemy.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As a leftist I can assure you, yes the left is significantly weaker, and there is a deep imbalance.

The left, specifically in America, has suffered gravely over the past century. The Red Scare era made it functionally illegal to be a leftist. Many leftists were fired, some were killed, and leftist thought was purged from our education system.

The following Cold War era pumped our populace full of anti-socialist propaganda. The majority of people over 50 believe socialism is just as bad as fascism, and that socialists are the enemy.

The American left has yet to recover from these deep wounds.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

That sums it up perfectly. Even the Dems can't bring themselves to support socialists.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The Left is weaker. Period.

Ronald Reagan went after the unions and the GOP never stopped. The Unions used to do a lot of the groundwork for the Dems; things like getting petitions signed and monitoring voting. The Churches do that job for the GOP because 'Right To Life.'

The Right has a fantastic ground game in US politics. They drive old folks to the polls on election day, put signs on lawns and in store windows, and send dozens of letters to any media outlet.

Another thing the Left does badly is break up into tiny splinter groups instead of uniting. In one town you'll have one group pushing for bike lanes, and another angry about the schools, and a third with another agenda.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yes, the left has no coherent vision.

And the funny thing is when they find someone to rally around, like Obama. They act like it's some miracle of his personality or something. No, Obama just had a coherent policy and message that people could get behind, including the white-working class. For some reason the Democrat leadership refuses to even consider having such a platform, and like you said, pushes all these niche interests to various voting blocs, instead of having one vision that appears to many voting blocs.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Follow-up question: why do Americans think there's an active mainstream political "left" in the US, and how is it related to the Democrats?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 5 hours ago

We’ve been told for generations that the Democrats are “left”, so many people have accepted it as truth. Repetition is powerful, especially when it’s been going on since before you were born, and your parents and grandparents believe it, too.

Not enough of us realize that Democrats aren’t “left”; they’re just not as obviously, painfully “right” as Republicans.

I hate our two-party system.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Define left.

If it's 'not republican' than the Democrats are it. If it's 'socialist values' than no, that's considered fringe politics. Sanders is a moderate socialist who'd be a center or center-right figure it many european countries, but American overton window makes him a extremist because our political history is far more libertarian and less centralized than most european states.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The last strong left wing politician America had was Huey Long, he was assassinated.

In America, anyone who is left wing, actually willing to do what is necessary to effect change, and who gets vaguely close to power, either has their reputation assassinated or is assassinated more literally.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

That's a name that you barely hear anymore outside of YouTube.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 8 points 7 hours ago

Only psychopaths think doing the right thing makes you weaker.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So like you want President Gavin Newsom to order the Justice department to charge Tucker Carlson with mortgage fraud?

Corruption and abuse of power actually get worse if it's "both sides". Don't you think?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

What if it already was both sides already ? 🤷

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

It means that one side is has gained an ability that is extremely dangerous for the society. It is a real imbalance, but the solution must be to raise awareness of the danger.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Americans presidents an get away from everything no matter which party they represent

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

What do you expect them to do? Something? Lulz. They're democrats!

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

It suggests an imbalance in media.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

yes, but the left is more interested in infighting and sabotaging itself than building any political unity or coherence like Trump has done with the republicans. They don't care they are a 'joke' because they mostly care that their seats are secure. Imcumbancy is the major issue why Democrats have become so weak, and anyone with new ideas or any political drive is often seen as a threat to the 'keep my job at all costs' who make up the majority of democrats.

Democrats used to do things, but that was in the 1980s and 1990s. Remember Bill Clinton, even had a republican house and managed to get shit done. No?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Clinton had a massive tech boom. That's pretty much the only reason he survived.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago

It's a performative statement, neither Democrats nor Republicans will even be held accountable for their actions by their peers. The oligarchy will never charge one of their own