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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 71 points 7 hours ago
[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 58 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

The Bible

I skimmed it but all I ever saw was just a bunch of begat this and begat that with some quotations sprinkled in between.

And this fucking thing is partly responsible for why numerous things are going wrong with humans today and humans of history.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's mostly the first chapter, genesis, the begat this stuff.

R crumb, the comics artist, has a fantastic graphic novel of Genesis where he communicates the emotions through his drawings of what the words are trying to communicate. This made genesis, the most boring and pedantic part of the Bible, more interesting.

The Bible has undoubtedly led to incalculable suffering as a cult, but just as a book, it's nowhere near the worst piece of literature I've ever read.

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[–] FritzApollo@lemmy.today 47 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Mein Kampf. Apart from being a bad person, Hitler was a terrible writer. Low quality thoughts articulated badly. I only read it so I could nail neonazis when they came at me with their stupid arguments.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Adolf Hitler was a modern-day edgelord and an incel. He didn't have any original thoughts, he stole the ideas from the magazines he read while he was poor and unemployed

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

It's a good thing people don't act like that any more /s

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Was that helpful or necessary in the end? Or was is such trite that you could have done without?

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It is extremely babble-minded and not at all worth reading or deconstructing.

I read it in the mindset of your first question.

Turns out, any argument you can think up in 2 seconds against bigotry is going to be more insightful and well-founded than a rebuttal against nascent nazi scribblings.

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well I'll save myself the trouble of being put on some sort of list for reading it then, thanks.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You got it.

I finished it and was like omigod at least nobody I ever come across with the same morbid curiosity has to read this now.

Only way I can look at reading that book not being a complete waste of time.

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 47 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Ready player one. If I wanted to read about a guy masturbating over memorizing 1980s Wikipedia I'd just go to forums.

It was the most boring Mary Sue-esque trash and I have no idea why it was so popular

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, I was a third of the way through and realized it kinda sucked. I did stick it out to the end though.

One of the plot points has the main character literally act out scenes from classic movies. It's never a good idea to remind the reader that there's better entertainment that they could be enjoying right now.

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[–] gjoel@programming.dev 11 points 7 hours ago

Eh, to each their own. I liked it. I also liked the different pacing than the movie. It made more sense.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I like the part where they figured out the previously undiscovered secret in the race was to drive backwards. I tried that shit in Mario Kart when I was 8, you're telling me NOBODY had tried it in that game before?

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

The only Kindle book I've ever returned.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 43 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Any of the Reacher books. God, they're terrible. They're just about a guy who jumps to outrageous conclusions and is always right nlbecause he's just so special. He's also big and tough and the best sniper in Army history.

In the first one, a guy skips town because he's a witness, and Reacher finds him in a hotel instantly because of the following logic:

Clearly he would have changed cities every night going in clockwise order or whatever - except for the one night after the place he was in was closer to the city he was fleeing - he'd rest 2 nights in the next city because sleeping thay close was so exhausting.

Because Reacher saw a Beatles album in the guy's house, he just knew he'd be using the last names of the Beatles, but keeping his own first name (which was Paul iirc), cycling them at each hotel.

So he walks into a random hotel near a bus stop in a random city and asks for the room of Paul Lennon and finds him because Reacher is just so smart!

And in the second book, he comes upon a woman being raped, kills the rapist, and the woman has sex with Reacher instead because he's a big, tough hero. And nothing like attempted rape puts you in the mood to fuck a stranger.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Here's a condensed version of all the books ...

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Haha, jeez i forgot about these.

I think I read the first three? Such a tropey train wreck i actually had fun for the first couple.

But I was well and done after two, I was like well this is just unhealthy now by the second book you can tell childs isn't paying any attention to plot or character development or anything that would make a story interesting, he was actively shutting my brain down.

it felt like that episode of The boondocks where Huey exclusively watches UPN as a social cognitive experiment.

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 37 points 7 hours ago (4 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 5 hours ago

I noped out about page 3 where the author wrote 'world famous symbologist.'

I knew there was no such word,

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (11 children)

The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. It was a while back, so I can't remember exactly, but I do remember my friend not doing it any favours by really praising that book. Perhaps I was expecting too much, but by contrast, I found it to be a rather naïve, consensual, and superficial self-help book trying to masquerade as something more profound with a thin veneer of new-age spirituality.

Hope I don't offend someone who loves it. I don't feel strongly about it now, it was a while back, so maybe I missed something then. If someone disagrees with me I won't die on that hill.

[–] awaysaway@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

interesting take. I don't remember much of the detail but I do remember it helping me to take big next steps more confidently when I read it at 16.

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[–] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 18 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Harry Potter back when I was a child and the first book was released. After reading a few pages I was already fed up with that horsecrap and continued reading The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Reading Dune books ATM and the original is one of my all-time favorites. But fuck me, Dune Messiah is incomprehensible. It's 80% about Paul navel gazing. I'd read a paragraph and think, "I have no idea what that is supposed to mean." 80% of the words in the book hit me like that.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I read Dune in a book club, and honestly for the majority in the club even the first book was near incomprehensible. The group absolutely hated not understanding any of the nomenclature it throws at you from the start, and there's was a lot of discussion that started "stick with it you'll get used to it."

I fucking love dune but took a few attempts to buy in and get through it. Glad I did though.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

Sometimes, a piece of fiction does not want you to understand every part of the fictional world from the get go. It's part of the art. For Dune in particular, it's a hard vs. soft world building distinction. Some fiction, harry potter comes to mind, builds up the world slowly and eases you into it, explaining every little thing that makes it different from our own. Some just dumps you into it and lets you experience it as an outsider slowly gaining understanding.

From what I gather, most people nowadays are much more used to the first method, to the point of expecting it and thinking they're missing something when the second method is used. I think stuff like that, including Dune, would be more enjoyable to many if they realised they aren't, in fact, missing anything and that's how the experience of consuming that piece of media was intended to be like.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The Da Vinci Code. It was laughably awful. This includes the premise as well as the writing. Dan Brown is probably sleeping on top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies, though.

[–] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The wheel Of time series. I got through the first 2 books before realising that I disliked every character. Also every female character was written so poorly it made me want to "Tug on my braid and stamp my foot"

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The Turner Diaries

It depicts a violent revolution in the United States which leads to the overthrow of the federal government, a nuclear war, and, ultimately, a race war which leads to the systematic extermination of non-whites.

This book was recomeded to me by a fellow activist. It's a disgusting and baddly written book, however it does give one insight into the mind of far right militants/terrorists. It also outlines the playbook that neo-nazis and various other bigoted assholes use to gain power while distancing themselfs from direct action and blaming minorities.

It holds up as something a leftist should read to know your enemy.

To that end, I also recomend every American read project 2025.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Easily The Fountainhead.

There's a reason that

Twelve publishers rejected the manuscript before an editor at the Bobbs-Merrill Company risked his job to get it published.

[–] Akido37@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Yeah starts cool but then wtf

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[–] Jarlsburg@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but several people heavily and repeatedly recommended me the Dark Tower series by Stephen King.


I had read a few books by King before and really enjoyed some of them. Even the first book in the series (written well before the others) was interesting but the whole series is just unbearable. It's long and disjointed and while there are some interesting moments, there are three times the amount of adding grotesquerie for no narrative reason, literal self-inserts, or worse, grabbing references to other IPs that get shoehorned into the story.

I know there are a lot of people that liked the series and I am happy it exists for those people, and I realize not everything is made for my tastes, but the ending was just so irredeemably bad. It makes the ending of GoT look like Breaking Bad.

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[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

The Five People You Meet in Heaven. Unrelenting mawkish sentimental slop with a big old dollop of new-age spirituality. Repulsive.

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I mean I enjoyed them at the time, but looking back, the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind had some questionable stuff in it. Pro death penalty, heavy objectivisation of women...

[–] Jarlsburg@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I had a friend recommend me Sword of Truth, which was, and is still, his second favorite book.

He just had a kid and named it Atlas after the Ayn Rand novel which is his first. I almost spit out my coffee when he told me that.

[–] Maven@piefed.zip 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think your friend might suck

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 2 hours ago

The Art of the Deal, by some Putz. I don't know whatever happened to him.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

i don't really know if it counts as a "book" but harry potter and the methods of rationality.

the premise is interesting, but the writing is ass. the politics more so.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 7 hours ago

Eat Pray Love.

My god it was so self-important and out of touch.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

I worked at a book store back a while now so people would ask and recommend books

The Secret was big at the time The Secret sucks ass I disliked any customer that recommended it to me after that I wouldn't say that though, I'd thank them politely.

I usually recommended Neuromancer, but it depended on topic.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (6 children)

I forgot the name of the book, but it starts out with some alien overlord dying, and a whole bunch of people commit ritualistic sewer slide over the death of the alien, and i just couldn't force myself to care.

I even started writing down names and details on the characters, just to try and make it stick. But I don't remember anything happening, to the point I just forgot to finish it.

Edit: Recommended by my brother, but I just didn't get what he got out of it.

Edit 2: The Praxis

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you just coined "ritualistic sewer slide," because that's great.

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[–] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 hours ago

You can say "suicide", it's fucking fine to use dirty words on the internet.

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