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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 41 points 21 hours ago

Many of the people electing the pope have hopes of becoming pope one day themselves, so they elect someone they expect to outlive.

[–] mech@feddit.org 27 points 19 hours ago

Electing a young pope is too risky.
He doesn't have a long track record and may still change his views, so he's less predictable.
And he could guide the church in a "wrong" direction for half a century.

In the middle ages, popes were often elected at a younger age, but they were also less reluctant to "dispose of" a bad one, or excommunicate him for devil worship and elect a competing one.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 21 points 20 hours ago

Someone in their 30's will significantly change their worldview over the next 50+ years.

More than anything else, the church wants stability. If you elect someone in the last part of their life, you'll have a much better idea of what ideology their entire papacy is going to be formed under.

If electing a pope was only for 4, 10, or even 20 years, it would be more reasonable to elect a younger pope, but as it is a lifetime appointment, someone older is always going to be a more conservative option.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago

You should probably understand the priesthood is a career by election of mateship mainly. If you have a desire to rise through the ranks it's basically about who you know vouching for you and it takes decades to get to the level you see at the Vatican where only a tiny minority ever make it.

A person in their 30s and 40s is only beginning this career. It would be like taking a warehouse worker at Amazon and making them CEO.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

They don't want them in there long enough to make any real changes

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 10 points 20 hours ago

The Pope rules for life. If they elect a bad one and he's seventy, oh well, won't be long. If he's thirty.... that's two generations growing up under a bad Pope.

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

When John Paul was around people bitched about how long he was pope.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Because he is elected for life so having long track record of things he has done is important to figure out if he is suitable for he job.

And if he turns out to be a bad pope he will see himself or soon enough. Pun intended.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

One more thing that hasn't been mentioned - the pope is the figurehead of the church, and needs to look the part. Why does the pope have grey hair? Because people expect the pope to have grey hair. Stable symbolism is important in an institution like the church, as much for followers as leaders. Electing a pope who doesn't "look the part" could cause defections and schisms.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 2 points 21 hours ago

Because they wouldn't have the required time to manipulate everybody into hating everybody else just a little bit more than them.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

It's a passive cosmetic effect once you get to that level

[–] devolution@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago

Grey hair = too old to fuck children.

At least that's their belief system not their reality.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world -4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You know how there's a saying about banks,(I'm paraphrasing) "If you're in debt $100k, the bank owns you. But if you're in debt $1m, you own the bank"? Same way in church. If it's one boy, or 100 boys.

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What possible relevance would this have on the post?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I think he's saying the pope is debt......maybe......I don't know.