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My wife and I are currently driving cross country (US), and earlier in the day we stopped at a Pilot gas station in Tennessee.

I exited the vehicle, tapped my card on the thing to authorize my card and pay, got about 30 bucks of gas, then went inside and paid for a drink and snacks with a different card.

300 miles later, we stop at another gas station and while we do we check our cards and notice a 150 dollar charge on the same card used for gas at that exact Pilot. Strangely the 30 dollar charge for the gas was there too. We immediately call our credit card company and they say its a pending charge and cannot do anything about it until its went through, so we pause the card.

I call the gas station itself and spoke to a manager, and was told its an authorization charge and will go away. 150 dollars is a crazy amount for an authorization charge and makes little sense to me, has anyone ever experienced this before? Is it normal?

(Meta: I didn't know where else to put this, but wanted to ask my fellow Lemmites, is that okay?)

Update: The charge has been removed from our account, so alls good. This is the first time I have ever seen an authorization charge so big, so it scared me, thanks to everyone for informing me on these charges, I'll know to keep my eye out in the future and not worry so much!

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 59 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

$150 is about normal these days. The pumps will usually have a little sticker somewhere that list the authorization hold amounts.

Fun fact: The auth holds used to be $1 way back in the day. But when prepaid debit cards came around, people could have a balance of $1 on them, get $50 worth of gas, and the station wouldn't be able to charge the actual amount (it would decline for NSF with no way to recover it as with a regular debit/credit card). That's why the hold amounts are between $75 and $150.

If you want to avoid the authorization hold, you can either pay cash or pre-pay with a cashier; the latter case will charge only what you pay.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, I've never actually seen the charge itself before. I sure am glad I asked here, I like seeing real answers.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Also, be aware that if it is debit and not credit card, it can take quite a while for the hold to come off. This isn't on the gas station, it's on how quickly your bank handles them. My bank it's around 2-3 business days, but I know some it can be up to four weeks. Granted, this is my experiences in Asia and around Europe, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same in the US.

If you think that's the case, confirm with your bank before you using it and accidentally end up with a few hundred on your account just stuck there for a while.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I don't think these happen with debit in the US, but if something happens and your card gets stolen your screwed out of that money with debit usually, so we always use credit.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 8 points 12 hours ago

Certainly in the UK, the £1 preauth was just a check to see if the card was valid. Once the issuer returned the thumbs up, there was no cap on what you could draw from the pump.

Either a scenario like the above would happen, or people who were running on fumes two days before payday would do this stunt - full up with sixty quid's worth of fuel - and when it bounced, would go back in on payday and be like "hey that's weird, sounds like your machines are acting up" and nobody would be any the wiser.

Now it's a near universal £99 preauth at unstaffed pumps.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Normal hold charge here is either $200 or $250.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 20 points 13 hours ago

They need to make it big enough to cover folks driving F-350's or something. Idk how much they take. It was generally $75 about 5 years ago. They don't do that with credit cards. Hotels are really awful about that, too.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

$150 is the most they can, I believe. It’s normal and it fucking sucks. That being said, I have debit cards that will only authorize for the amount you use (like, I have $30 in my account, it clears, pump for $15 of gas, no residual hold). I know there’s good reasons to use a credit card on a trip, but they’re a pain for the pre-auth. It’s supposed go away in a few hours normally — maybe by the end of the day?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago

The annoying thing is that the credit cards fully support authorizing for some amount likely to cover the transaction and using the same transaction to capture so no lingering auth sits around.

If a merchant has captured the funds and still has a hold sitting around the someone has implemented something wrong.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

but they’re a pain for the pre-auth.

I think I've only ever had a credit card decline one me once for being outside of my normal area. What kind of cards do you have?

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I meant that credit cards specifically tend to get a preauthorization hold at gas stations, at least in my experience.

I will get declines on debit cards from my credit union if I don’t tell them I’ll be out of area within about two states. BofA has a feature where if you open their app with location on, it’ll register you as traveling in whatever area. Amex, never had a problem. Can’t speak for the others.

[–] InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Heres me living in Aus reading these comments saying this is normal, thinking its insane. We just pull up to the bowser, wave to the cashier and start pumping petrol. People would be livid if they saw a $150 auth charge. The petrol station would be getting dragged in the news.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 5 points 11 hours ago

Funny, $200 is standard in NZ if you pre pay. Can usually post pay though as you say.

Or guess how much fuel you're going to need and pre-auth a little more than that.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Lucky! I only just now learned this was normal now, but damn does it suck that it does. Im not sure why there isn't a system to authorize outside charging cards, seems backwards to me.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would guess that you have the same thing happen there - you just never noticed/looked at the right time to see those charges. Fuel stations don't want you to fill your tank and then discover you can't afford the fuel, so they have some sort of arrangement with the credit cards to verify that you can afford the fuel before you put it in.

[–] InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Credit card doesn't leave the wallet till I go in to pay. There's no way for them to magic the charges onto the card.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Gas station or truck stop? If the latter, it isn't that shocking that they might lazily use the same authorization charge amount for cars as they do for 18-wheelers.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah it was a truck stop, seems to be the case.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The best selling vehicle model in America is the Ford F-150, with gas tank sizes mostly above 30 gallons (exact size depends on model/options). The second best selling vehicle is the Chevy Silverado, whose gas tank is between 24-28 gallons.

At $3/gallon, that's between $75 and $90 for the typical fill up.

For some vehicles (really large SUVs, premium SUVs that take premium grade gas), I can see $200+ tanks at certain gas prices we've seen in our recent past.

So it makes sense for a gas station to do a pre authorization for $100, maybe $150.

The other thing, too, though, is that the hold/pre-auth doesn't matter if it's a credit card that you just pay at the end of the month. It gets sorted out before your statement balance gets billed to you. It can get annoying if you're using a debit card and your balance is low, but this is just another way that credit cards tend to be better than debit cards if you can handle the responsibility.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 10 hours ago

Pilot is a big truck station. I expect it isn't unusual for customers to buy $900 worth of diesel in a single fillup.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Its just quite a scary thing to see when you've never seen it before. My wife and I do this trip 2-3 times a year, several days of driving to and fro, yet only just now saw it, so it scared us.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Scares hell out of my wife as well. She's foreign and thinks she's getting ripped off. Having hell explaining to her how this works in America.

Used to be $50. $150 sounds pretty crazy, but ultimately shouldn't matter. I guess. 🤷🏻

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Its credit, so i suppose it doesn't actually matter unless your card is super strict or something, still 150 is a scary amount for most Americans to see just suddenly charged. Even if its temporary.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wife saw $50 and flipped her shit! That used to be the normal charge, your post made me realize it's way higher now.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

My condolences lol.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

still 150 is a scary amount for most Americans to see just suddenly charged. Even if its temporary.

Think of it as not even being charged. The hold/pre-authorization is just there to make sure that it can charge you that much if it needs to, but it never actually does charge you. It just tells your bank/card issuer that it might want to charge you up to that much.

Hotels and rental cars do this with huge amounts, too, to make sure that they can charge you for the stuff you charge to the room or if you keep a rental car for an extra week. But you don't actually get charged for it until the merchant determines you did use those extra services for those extra charges.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Story on this one. As a young adult I needed gas to drive to my second job a town over, maybe 12 miles. I had $75 in my account which was plenty to fill up.

When I started the process, my card was declined. I tried and failed a few times, then went inside the store and had them try there to no success. The cashier mentioned that the hold amount was set by the bank.

Hearing this I went down the road too my bank and asked them what the fuck was going on, to which they said it was normal and that my funds were locked until the transaction went through. The 0$ transaction.

I managed to scrounge up enough change and a single $5 bill I had in my wallet to buy like 2 gallons of gas which was just enough to get to work and back. Shortly thereafter I closed my account at that bank and transferred everything to a credit union I have been much happier with.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

$100-150 is typical for a gas station holding charge. In my experience, they only do this for credit cards, but not debit cards and also doesn't get overcharged like that if you pay inside, but it also depends on the station.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 6 points 12 hours ago

Pretty normal, seems nuts for a normal vehicle but they're likely using a number for if someone pulls up in a motorhome with a 50 gallon tank. Cards have a max they can do in one shot at the pump around that level as well.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

It's just a thing, some will have a posted notice they do it, some just do it.

You can try to keep track of which ones do it, but if the hold is a concern the easiest way is to pay before pumping.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago

normally I still see $75 but in some areas around me known for gas guzzlers I do see $150 for the pre-auth. It almost always clears by the next morning but I've seen it take up to 3 days before during road trips (I suspect because I almost never travel it gets flagged for internal manual review but no real idea)

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 10 hours ago

I'll usually see $100, but $150 isn't insane, especially at a truck stop. It's just pending, because they don't actualy process the charge until they close the books later, at which time the actual amount is cross-referenced with the pending amount, the pending amount is canceled, and the actual amount is charged.

tl;dr: Don't worry about it.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 8 hours ago

My understanding about this and if I remember correctly they charged the maximum amount that the pump will let you pump so if the pump will let you pump 50 gallons they authorize the dollar amount for that amount of gas.

After that they charge the amount of gas that you actually get and delete the first charge. Normally this happens fast enough that you don't ever see it on your account. If you were in the middle of nowhere though, they might have been using tile up for their credit card system and that could delay things.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As explained to me, the hold is there to make sure you have enough in the account. Once the charge goes through with the actual amount the hold should go away so you don't have both at the same time.

I see people saying this is normal but I have never seen both the hold and the charge at the same time.

[–] Evrala@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

It depends on who you have for a bank. I know cash app cards will sometimes leave the hold for 5 business days.

Cash app will also leave a hold if the charge is denied for lack of funds, it'll just put a hold on whatever is left in the account.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I’ve seen $250 preauth, I’ve seen $500+ fills too.

But there’s different ways to pre auth. The normal way I see it is that you authorize up to $XX and the CC company approves/denies it, and then you pump what you need up to that amount. That it’s got a hold on the card afterwards is I think an older way back from when they’d have signatures on everything and it’s anachronistic with tap. I remember that would show up back in the ‘00s sometimes in the USA.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'll just mention pilot, flying J, loves, the bigger interstate travel center stations tend to hold larger amounts because their systems cover for semi trucks filling up. I never had a hold that large from a neighborhood gas station.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The race track I take my car to on occasion puts a $600 hold whenever you buy gas on site. And there is a sticker I didn't see until after my bank called me asking if I was crazy buying $600 worth of gas.

Bananas!

[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Sams won't let me buy gas with my debit card if I don't have more than $100 in my account.

So yea, seems right.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

For me it defaults to around $250 each time, but my car will take about $50 for a full tank. So I change it to around $60 just to avoid holding a lot more than needed.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I might just start pre-paying from now on.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Prepay inside and you'll never have this issue. You get to chat with a bored cashier as well.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I just never know how much to get exactly is all.