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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 448 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson -- an innocent man and father of two young children

Innocent man my ass

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 350 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

19 and 16 are "young" children? Not to mention the fact that he was separated from his wife and his contact with them was limited. Unlike with hundreds, if not thousands, of parents he killed with his policy of denying coverage.

The obvious fellating of the ruling class by the mainstream media is annoying as fuck.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago

Nearly 26.6 million people in the U.S. rely on UnitedHealthcare Employer & Individual through insured and self-funded plans. In addition, we serve more than 7.5 million people with care and benefits services outside of the United States.

Rather than hundreds to thousands, I'm going to go with thousands to tens of thousands.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

How about a new rule... You don't get to call them young children if you think that they are old enough to work long hours at a hazardous job without breaks, or that they are old enough (by 2 or more years!) to be married to a 60+ year old pervert. You lose all moral standing to call them "young children" if you do.

[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same aged kids are 'practically an adult' when congressmen traffic then.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 164 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Brian Thompson - unconvicted mass murderer and father of two grown children.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago

For which he thankfully received the death penalty.

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[–] RainbowHedgehog 345 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The “pro-life” party really loves the death penalty…

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 219 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they need live babies to they can become dead soldiers

— George Carlin

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More workers than soldiers at this point

I have a friend who studies behavior but applied to employment systems. Tons of research there on getting the most out of your employees. This sounds terrible when you first hear it right? But when you read it it’s about not burning out staff with reasonable quotas and demands, using positive reinforcement, building morale, etc. basically that you might decrease output slightly now but you’ll increase retention of the staff and the staff will overall be much more satisfied

They reject this in basically every industry even though it’s evidence based. It’s easier to burn people out and churn through workers. Meanwhile humanity stays poor and miserable for the most part (aside from a small percentage that makes out like bandits)

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Right? Tons of studies show that treating your employees well is way more profitable than treating them like shit. Even from a capitalist perspective, it's stupid to not treat them well.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago

Well it depends. If you want quality staff delivering quality service/making quality products then yes it is. You have to spend a ton of money onboarding and training them so burning them out is foolish because you just burn cash

However, if you are fine with delivering a poor or mediocre service/product (the bare minimum), you can slash training and onboarding costs to the bare minimum. Your staff will be even more resentful because now they will struggle.

But as long as you have a huge pool of workers clamoring for jobs you can keep this going and even do so with abusive conditions (demand 100% efficiency, constant overtime, insane quotas, etc). Just burn them out and when they crash pick another resume from the pile

I was talking to someone the other day who works in the tech industry. They had a coworker who died on a Friday and they were replaced on a Monday. There was no fanfare or grieving. It was just “okay, that’s a bummer, here’s his replacement”

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[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

In this case it’s just the rich punishing a plebeian for daring to challenge them, in the hopes of they make his punishment terrible enough everyone else will be too scared to rise up.

But in answer to you astute observation that the ‘pro-life’ people love the death penalty, the reason is simple: to these people, being ‘bad’ isn’t something you do, it’s something you are.

So to them it’s not a break in internal logic at all. They gave the pure, innocent baby a chance, but they turned out to be a Bad Person, so they must be punished, because that’s what you deserve for being a Bad Person.

This is why they favor punitive jailing and killing criminals instead of trying to reform criminals; criminals are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things.

It’s also why they do stuff like try to get rid of abortion. If a woman got pregnant from ‘sleeping around’ then she’s a Bad Person and deserves to be punished by carrying the child to term.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 188 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How to make a martyr in 180 days?

It's really crazy we are literally living in a new type of world.

The wealthy ARE the powerful, but the rest of us out number them to such grand extent that the only way they can remain wealthy is through fear and murder.

There is no war but class war.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 day ago

They did this to the anarchist assassins (And accused assassins) in the 1930s, too. Started summarily deporting people en masse for their beliefs or presumed beliefs, and executing people after brief appearances in kangaroo courts. Honestly if Germany hadn't gone Nazi and basically dragged the us into a war with them, we would have done it instead.

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 141 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] RainbowHedgehog 41 points 1 day ago

What I was thinking too.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 124 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If everything is the death penalty we might as well do everything.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago

The punishment for stealing from the king's garden is death.

The punishment for killing the king so everyone may eat from it is death.

Might as well go for the most effective use of your life.

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 29 points 1 day ago

This is straight up Diogenes. As in, same problem for the last 2300 years.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He should run for congress because there are no consequences for crime if you get elected before the justice system has time to convict

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago

That corrupt piece of shit that dropped the trump University case for fifty bucks and a case of Boone's Farm wants the DoJ to pursue the death penalty for a homicide. Sure. Best timeline ever.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 87 points 1 day ago (10 children)
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[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat noooooooooooo, that can't be right. Who other than every single person alive saw that coming?

Hopefully, they will televise it and trump will say "You're fired" right before they pull the switch. That would be on par with the shitshow circus we live in these days.

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[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 81 points 14 hours ago (13 children)

Kill 24 normal citizens in a mass shooting in a Walmart, plea deal. Allegedly Kill 1 billionaire, death penalty

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 28 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think he was a billionaire. But his job was a nasty one that did please billionaires.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Indications seem to be high 8 to low 9 figs. There is a fucking ocean between "not billionaire" and "average guy". Also, obligatory fuck Brian Thompson.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 71 points 22 hours ago (21 children)

They’re sitting in a working class revolt powder keg and they just lit the match ….lol

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You want a riot? Cause your gonna get one.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 56 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So they basically admit it is about revenge, not justice? How dare someone of the working class attack someone clearly superior! We must punish this worthless creature to put them into their rightful place at the bottom of the taxpaying pyramid!

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 54 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This has a potentially significant chance of backfiring, as it is more difficult to get a jury to convict when the death penalty is at stake.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 54 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The death of one, a tragedy. The death of millions, statistics.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

death of millions for profit - solid business practice, congratulations and see you again at next shareholder meeting

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Can't say it on Reddit, but I hope that they can't find a jury who would convict him.

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[–] Eldritch_Alyx@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

A man killed a man that was killing thousands of men.

So, we should kill him!

Are they not vindicating Luigi by wanting this?

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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Whenever I think of the Dylan Roof incident.

The death penalty isn't a punishment, who really learns from it, the criminal? It's a tool for society to remove what amounts to a defective person (not human, person). People are supposed to value the lives of other people by default. Any sustained deviation from this norm is a symptom of a person who cannot value life.

Dylan Roof was given 1000s of opportunities to demonstrate that he did actually value life but because of his defective nature there was no choose but to remove him.

"Life in prison" can be canceled/pardoned/changed, death cannot. That is why it's near impossible to make it happen and even if it does,, people spend the rest of their lives waiting for their "execution" (ftr Dylan is still alive at this time source).

Now in what possible world would you be able to convince a jury of random peers, or judges with their heads actually screwed on tight, that a sample size of one murder proves that a person is defective.

Genuine responses only:

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The prosecutor claims that he endangered others around the victim. But if you watch the video you can tell he clearly was careful to not cause harm to anyone else. He could have bombed him, done a drive-by or any other method but he shot him with single shots at a close range. If they go for the death penalty he'll walk.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 45 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

hmm so death is an appropriate consequence for killing people, huh. so she's admitting that Luigi allegedly delivered justice, actually.

I think it's inappropriate for a lawyer to use stage names though. I mean, Pam Bondi? come on.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago

If we live in a country where a child can get ran over or shot every day and nobody gets prison time for it, we can set a man free who kills a serial killer that preys on the poor and injured for profit.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago

We all now know for sure what scares them.

[–] CosmicJoker@lemm.ee 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Pam Bondi should get the same sentence for Treason to America

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 35 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

So they want to make a martyr of him.

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[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh that piece of shit, does she not understand this will make matters worse?

She will turn him into a martyr, this administration is the dumbest I have seen in my whole fucking life.

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[–] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He should have used a car to run him down.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

The guy who deserved the DP got it.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So riddle me this. Inner City, poor area, 2:00 a.m.
One gang member approaches another rival gang member, pulls out an illegally modified full auto pistol, dumps an entire 30 round magazine into him.
Does he get the death penalty?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nobody should ever get the death penalty. Capital murder is a symptom of a fucked up society.

Death By Hanging (1968)

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[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

They are so fucking scarred, they want to give a message.

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