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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 156 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

I also blame the 90M eligible voters that abstained from the election. Think about that for a second. There were 13M more people that did nothing, than all of the people that voted for Trump.

Welcome to adulthood. Make a choice or one will be made for you. If you stand for nothing, then you’ll fall for anything.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Inb4 people come here to defend their self-righteousness. No, nephews. You made a stupid choice for stupid reasons, and it's time to accept your core values are obnoxious and self-centered, and then shape up.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same phrase applies to non voters and trumpanzees alike. You were lied to and you fell for it … simple as

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (32 children)

100% agree. I don't really care what their reasons for not voting Harris was.

If they abstained from voting because of Israel, or her affiliation with the prison industrial complex, if it was something ignorant like skin color or gender, or if they voted against her because they either supported Trump, or just always voted Republican no matter what.

Trump voters and non voters decided that the worlds largest military should be long to fascists.

I have no respect for people who whine that this is not what they voted for, because it was. Ignorance is no excuse.

If you regret your actions, NOW is the time to make up for it. Become politically active, speak up, inform your friends, do SOMETHING!

If you didn't vote for Harris in 2024, and you are not yet politically active against republicans, you deserve the bullets coming in your civil war.

So fucking glad i am not American.

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[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I wonder what made the majority of those people not vote at all.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I'm sure the millions and millions of conservatives who use Lemmy are going to read this and really rethink their positions.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced most conservatives can read.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The situation with literacy in the USA does more to reveal exactly where and what we are far better than any other arguments about our wealth and society. We have a really big fucking problem here.

21% of adults in this country are FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE. This is mind-melting for the "richest nation on Earth." We have nearly a quarter of our population who know how read words as necessary to survive but cannot string together text to form coherent narratives or even pictures in their heads. They can text with emojis and monosyllables but are deeply insecure about not being able to comprehend longer paragraphs and as a result rage against notions of logic and reason and fact-checking. This is what functional illiteracy means and we've all encountered it, and this is where much of our science-denial and irrational beliefs are coming from.

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

https://www.project2025.observer/

Thing is, we're all going to burn together. The one bright spot in the coming years will be that moment when maga realizes they are going down along with everyone they wanted him to hurt.

It won't fix everything, but that schadenfreude will keep me warm in my final moments.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they’ll be proud to sacrifice for the cause of hurting others

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The internet says:

... to own the libs.

This makes it ok.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter. What I fear the most is that we have less than a year or that we’re already there. Talks of invasion and third term abound it’s only a matter of time the melting brain of trump starts trying to nuke someone

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter.

It's already too late for it to matter. At the first whimpering of complaints from some tiny minority of Republican voters they just stopped showing up to their own town halls.

Every R in an elected position is complicit at best and full throated supporting at worst (and for that matter so is every R in my circle of family and friends - no surprise given his 92% favorability rating with Republicans), and elected R representatives no longer even care about the opinions of their base unless they are from the ones still drinking the flavor aid.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the definition of culling the entire working class, this lizard brain level sentiment regarding one another.

Defense of a plastic faced immigrant billionaire with dead fish eyes when you profess to dislike immigrants, violations of the constitution, government overreach, and rich bosses who are neither fair or deserving of their employees. Or employers who choose the immigrant worker they can take advantage of (H1B) over an American.

Why? For no other reason than the “other side” thinks he’s bad for America, working class, and the constitution. Bad for We The People.

It’s masterful social engineering, really, keeping working class fighting each other instead of going after the cause of the decades long and ever worsening [class] problems.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think my decision to never interact voluntarily with a Republican again is going to impact the fate of the world much.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

after WW2 and the horrors of the Nazis came fully to light....people kept asking....how did the German people let this happen? how did they let it continue until disaster fell? how could they have allowed such cruelty and degradation to occur?

THIS was how. by not paying attention. by ignoring the growing inequities and terror going on in their midst. BY PRETENDING EVERYTHING WAS OK.

and now WE are doing the same. it's easy to ignore right now....it isn't TOO bad....not TOO many people are being affected...yet.

we need to stop ignoring and start paying attention to exactly what they are doing.

[–] udc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

For real. And yet some ppl still thinks he's 4d chessing even after all this sht.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush, 1980

[–] dota__2@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they'll then tell you that he disavowed project 2025 because he doesn't lie every other sentence.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 days ago

"every politician lies" they'll say about Kamala Harris' affordable housing programs

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, they knew what it was. They just didn’t think it would affect them.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The people who voted for Trump are only angry that they are being hurt. Even if they read Project 2025, they'd assume they'd be exempt and that it'd only hurt the right people.

There is no reason to engage in smug gloating to shame them into repenting or trying to gently reason with them. You shouldn't even be talking to them. You should seek to undermine them at every level possible. They need to be kneecapped.

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[–] wandrinstar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but don't let your self righteousness turn a budding class war back into a culture war.

If Republican voters are suddenly waking up and thinking "this isn't right" smacking them down with "this is what you voted for" is not going to help your cause.

"Yes, you're right, this shouldn't be happening and we should work together to stop it."

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's doing everything he promised to do and then some. But don't worry, the outcome would have been the same regardless of who we voted for, remember?

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[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Not only did they vote for this.

A lot a lot of them only voted for trump on the ballot and no downticket names or state questions.

They literally voted for specifically this.

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[–] adm@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

I'd love to here from the "project 2025 isn't real." folks right about now.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Even if they didn’t read project 2025.

Just like covid, we had the 1/3 sane portion of the population that tried to warn the idiotic 1/3 while they refused to listen.

It’s one thing to be uninformed, it’s another to demonize (yes they did) people who are trying to help you.

[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

And then there's the 1/3 that didn't even bother to get off the couch and participate.

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (40 children)

What about the idiots who chose to stay home and not vote at all. They may not have voted for it, but they weren't voting against it either, and ambivalence in the face of fascism is tacit support.

[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

245 millions could've voted, 90 millions didnt vote, 77 millions voted for trump.

68% of people either didn't care about fascism or wanted it.

Dear americans, wtf happened. Where were you.

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[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean he’s a convinced felon. I do t get why anyone would any need to read anything else

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

convicts can reform and become better people.

that said, he has never shown the abilities of remorse, regret, empathy, integrity, or public servitude.

don't judge a man on what he does, because outward appearances are what they want you to see.

judge him on things he doesn't do.

he doesn't tell the truth, he doesn't help those in need, he doesn't stop corruption, he doesn't protect the constitution, he doesn't protect America.

if you have family that supports him, ask them why he doesn't do these things. then ask them if they believe these are qualities that every American should strive to emulate.

we need to start treating them like they treat us. lie, cheat, and steal from them. their kindness only deserves to be returned in full.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Given that most felons are people convicted of drug crimes and targeted because of their race, I’d say that many if not most don’t even require reform. I’d probably rather spend time with most felons than most CEOs.

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[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A lot of Rep voters approve of Project 2025. His approval isn't that low. Approval of certain policies, like tarriffs are low, but overall approval isn't. What's scary is his most evil policies (the immigration policies) have some of the highest approval.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

“Trump’s all talk. He’s not going to do that.”

“Oh shit. He’s doing all that stupid shit.”

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Republicans supplied MAGAs with a trojan horse by being complacent to who represents their team whether they want to admit it or not.

[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

TBH I'm okay with folks admitting they were lied to. Just help us fix this now.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago

And they’re supposed to know what the sign says? You think these people can read?

[–] Wolverdiddlyino@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

No one read it. There were plenty of more obvious warnings.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Why do you even assume they can even read in the first place ?

[–] TThor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"A nazi walks into a bar, and is welcomed at a table by his nine friends. How many Nazis are at the table?" Anyone who sides with fascists, even tentatively or for differing reasons, is themselves still a fascist.

The German Nazis didn't gain power purely from support of other nazis; they gained power largely from various other parties, business leaders, and wealthy elite, who thought the Nazis would be a useful tool they could use and control to their own ends. The "why" of their support is far less important than the fact of the support itself, and the fact those people were responsible for helping the Nazis commit their crimes.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

"But he promised (lied again) about not knowing a thing about it!"

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