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I also blame the 90M eligible voters that abstained from the election. Think about that for a second. There were 13M more people that did nothing, than all of the people that voted for Trump.
Welcome to adulthood. Make a choice or one will be made for you. If you stand for nothing, then you’ll fall for anything.
Inb4 people come here to defend their self-righteousness. No, nephews. You made a stupid choice for stupid reasons, and it's time to accept your core values are obnoxious and self-centered, and then shape up.
Same phrase applies to non voters and trumpanzees alike. You were lied to and you fell for it … simple as
100% agree. I don't really care what their reasons for not voting Harris was.
If they abstained from voting because of Israel, or her affiliation with the prison industrial complex, if it was something ignorant like skin color or gender, or if they voted against her because they either supported Trump, or just always voted Republican no matter what.
Trump voters and non voters decided that the worlds largest military should be long to fascists.
I have no respect for people who whine that this is not what they voted for, because it was. Ignorance is no excuse.
If you regret your actions, NOW is the time to make up for it. Become politically active, speak up, inform your friends, do SOMETHING!
If you didn't vote for Harris in 2024, and you are not yet politically active against republicans, you deserve the bullets coming in your civil war.
So fucking glad i am not American.
nonvoters, tautologically, decided nothing.
Non-voters decided it wasn't worth it to them to vote against fascism.
That makes fascism very much their fault too.
the democratic party decided they wanted trump to win the primary in 2016, when do they get blamed?
I blame them all the time too. The chair of the DNC had to step down because of their corruption in Bernies primary, but the courts ruled it wasn't technically against any laws, so Hillary Clinton straight up hired her to run her campaign after that.
Its grotesque. But it doesn't change the fact that anyone who didn't vote for Harris in 2024 voted for fascism.
I'm pretty sure people who voted for Harris voted for fascism too
Nah, they voted for same old, same old. Which is blatant capitalism that drains the country slowly, and keeps POC down.
Its not the same as draining the country quickly and deporting POC to countries that uses prisoners as slaves.
Do you honestly believe that an America with the Democrats at the helm right now would look the same, or are you just trolling?
this is a strawman.i never said that.
No, you saying that her putting POC in your prisons were the same as Trump illegally deporting people to be slaves in different countries.
I know, it is still not the same. Being a little fucked or being a lot fucked is not "the same".
I never said it's the same. you are arguing with a straw man
You keep arguing for reasons to not vote against Trump to be valid. I don't care about your weak reasoning to let fascism take hold of the strongest military in the world. You had power to stop it, and chose not to. That makes you at least complicit. Nazi-adjacent.
you have no idea how I voted, but even people who did vote for Kamala didn't stop Trump from taking power, and if she had won fascism still would have won
No the people who did vote for Kamala didn't stop Trump because too many fucking losers stayed home and let fascism win.
regardless of what excuses you want to make, Kamala voters did not stop Trump
Obviously. Because 90 million eligible voters decided that it wasn't worth it to vote against the Nazis.
What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
you are blaming the wrong people for Trump's win. his voters are who is to blame, and Hilary and the Democrat establishment for elevating him in the 2016 primary.
Obviously i blame the fucking Nazis, what are you even on about. But they are brainwashed cultmembers, thats what to be expected of them.
I also obviously blame the leaders of the DNC for cheating in the primary against Bernie. Hillary had no chance against Trump, and Bernie would have obliterated the orange fucker. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for their traitorous actions in 2016.
But we are talking about 2024. We all knew the Nazis were Nazis, and we all knew the top of the DNC was corrupt and fighting to maintain the status quo.
The choice was staying still or handing the reins to the Nazis. That choice was decided not by the Nazis, who showed up to vote with about the same amount as they lost with last time.
It wasn't decided by the democratic leaderships corruption either, as Bernie didn't run in 2024.
The Republican victory was decided in 2024 by fewer democratic voters showing up to vote. Nothing more, nothing less. People might have felt justified for whatever reason to abstain, but that choice handed the largest military in the world to a bunch of billionaires fascists.
the only choices that handed trump power were votes for trump, and Hilary and the dnc making sure he got the nomination in 2016.
You're stuck on a loop, and it sounds like you've been stuck for almost 10 years now.
Time to wake up. Your lack of actions have consequences.
yea. I didn't stop the invasion of Ukraine or the 10/7 attack or stop Israel from ethnically cleansing Gaza. but I'm not responsible for the actions of others
anyone who didn't vote, didn't vote for fascism either.
They did though. There was a choice between status quo and fascism, and choosing not to choose between the two, is handing victory to fascists. Your country needed you, and you gave it to fascists.
Its pathetic.
the people responsible for electing trump are the people who voted for him. anyone who didn't... didn't.
Anyone who didn't vote against Trump elected him.
this just isn't true
her only won because people voted for him
Sometimes life has no perfect choices. Not voting was an active choice, a choice not to take action to protect the US from facism. Anyone who didn't think Trump was bad enough to vote against, doesn't get to blame others that he won. Their choice comes with responsibility, just like everyone elses choices do.
I wonder what made the majority of those people not vote at all.
Ignorance. Willful or otherwise, there is no excuse when Trump was broadcasting his plans of dismantling our government to drive inequality and white supremacy.
Couldn't have been successive gerrymandering, anti-voting laws, Democrats becoming Republican-Lite, increasing inflation, steadying wages, Democrats actively touting policies against the popular public mindset, Democrats failing to advertise their wins, Joe Biden going back on his word and waiting too long to drop out, Joe Biden and establishment Dems muting Kamala's & Tim's popular, progressive agenda, Joe Biden dropping out to force the least liked Californian politician to be the presidential front runner, Kamala literally saying she's no different from Joe Biden, that we don't have a federal holiday to allow all people the freedom to step away from the lifeline that is work to exercise their civic duty, on and on.
Nah, it wasn't the system. People are just dumb.
And they are! Hell, I remember seeing interviews on Election Day where people still thought that it was Biden v. Trump. Even Trump forgot he wasn't campaigning against Biden.
Democrats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. They could have accounted for all of these social issues, but establishment leadership doesn't care for the working class if it means they still get their paycheck and their spotlight in Congress.
Probably go a long way making the days we vote federal holidays.
Apathy? Laziness? Or are the evil Democrats that kept people from voting against fascism in the room with you right now?
You should really ask yourself why so many people just didn't see the point in voting.
Voting doesn't always mean you 100% agree with the party you are voting for. Sometimes it means that you vote for the least bad option to prevent system collapse. I say this as a South African whose only voting goal for years was to prevent the ANC from getting a sufficiently high majority to be able to change the constitution. We came insanely close a few times but made it through.
Not voting in the US election was a choice, a choice not to stand against Trump. So anyone who didn't think Trump was bad enough to vote against, doesn't get to blame the GOP for what's happening.
That is a fair point, but for this to happen, there must have been a fair few who just didn't see much difference between the two parties.
If they honestly thought both parties were equally bad, then they're getting what they expected - an untrustworthy political party that doesn't represent their values. I trust they're feeling sufficiently vindicated.
And then think about how the Democrats could have campaigned those people rather than chasing Republicans by adopting anti-immigration policies and platforming people like Liz Cheney, for example.
But they didn't.
Welcome to adulthood. Establishment politicians, whether Republican or Democrat, are beholden to the rich and neoliberalism. We're even seeing this with how establishment Dems are pushing back against populist, progressive figures like Bernie Sanders and AOC in favor of Cory Booker and Chris Murphy.
AND then consider how Joe Biden is coming back from the brink of death by saying that he and Jill will build back the Democratic party, thinking that people will forget how Biden shot down Bernie's chances in 2020 or how he said he'd be a single term president, waiting until the first presidential debate with Trump months before the election to show just how fucking incompetent he is.
Maybe more people abstained from this election because the two biggest parties didn't look any different, so who cares about the outcome!
Ill respect someone that voted 3rd party or drew a cock and balls on the ballot over someone who didn't bother.
Honestly I don't think I would. That means it's someone who's informed as well as has the means to vote, and decided to let trump take over again.
The democrats support the FPTP system as well, if they lose because of it I feel they deserve it.
Not American though, I voted for a 3rd party candidate in the UK election. I don't think anything will change until we make them lose too many votes to other parties.
Meh, blame the game, not the player. If someone wants to vote third party that’s their democratic right under the system. If you don’t like it fight for change to runoff voting.
Edit: hate it all you like, your system allows you to vote third party, so don’t be surprised when people do.