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Just me venting:

So I noticed I was getting spammed with crypto Shit on discord. Turns out my friends hotmail got hacked. He didnt have Access to the Account no more and turned to microsoft. Their response was just straight up bullshit because I am so sure that they can try harder but chose not to.

Yes its not unexpected but seeing it Live is a whole another level of disgusting Business practices. Especially the Part where They Tell him that he should buy minecraft again instead of offering a key or something like that. I know That They cant access one Drive really Unless they have a backdoor key but still straight up scummy to Tell him Theres nothing they can do regarding his Account and that his onedrive data is lost.

Edit: I noticed a Lot of people saying its Fake and honestly idk if it is cause he didnt send me the Screenshot with the Mail included and I didnt ask. This is just the sc he sent me and honestly knowing ms and him is all I need personally. I do get some of the doubts tho, yea and I already wondered whether he was writing to a scammer but I didnt question it. Believe what yall will but I dont think its that unbelievable that ms wont bother with „small stuff like that“

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[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 113 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

I don’t know I’m not buying this whole thing.

My company is a Microsoft partner, we deal with all types of issues and requests including account hacking and lockouts. This just doesn’t read like a Microsoft customer support email. It reads more like a scammer actually.

The first paragraph sounds strange and not how they would typically start an investigation response.

They can, and have, recovered full access to our customers’ data in such an event, so weird to say they can’t.

even our engineers cannot retrieve them.

That just reads very strange. They don’t talk like that.

Then the final line with “Sincerely,” improperly indented looks like classic scammer text alignment.

And they wouldn’t sign it as “Microsoft Customer Support”. It would be signed with the agents name and wouldn’t be finite. Their ticketing system places footers that instruct the user to reply to the email for continued support.

This message looks bogus to me.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 46 points 17 hours ago

I'm happy to jump on the MS hate train, but yeah, this doesn't read like a genuine email. I'm pretty sure last time I had to deal with their support, I gave myself a black eye facepalming too hard at some "We hope that this could help" default phrase at the end of a mail telling me they couldn't. If nothing else, they've got their corporate-brand professional politeness on point.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Yep this is the scammer that stole the account and they just want to keep it.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Oh come on! I’m sure that all genuine Microsoft support emails start with “Greetings [customer name]”…

[–] snf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

There's also the weird line spacing change in the last paragraph

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 82 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They 100% can verify a linked Minecraft account and transfer it, or provide a new key.

They just won’t.

I also bet if the US intelligence agencies ask those engineers suddenly have ways to help. Microsoft holds the keys.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

They will, however, ask you for the account info/receipt to recover it. When you reply, a different help desk person will reply asking for that info you just sent. When you reply, a different help desk person will reply asking for that info you just sent. When you reply, a different help desk person will reply asking for that info you just sent.

... I got to five replies (in a chain, with history and all requested info attached) before I gave up. Just another reason I hate microsoft

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[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 73 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Story time: I once saw a betting page claiming to give away free Dota 2 skins. I wanted to take a chance, but smelled the sketchyness, so I logged in with a secondary account that I used that only had a free NSFW game.

Unexpectedly, after I logged in, they inmediately changed the password and the email associated, and probably tried to steal any skin I had; since this secondary account had none, I didn't lose anything.

I contacted Steam support, told them what happened with proof that I'm the owner of the previous email. They verified the situation, and I had my account back less than 48 hours after being "scammed". All of this in an account that literally only had a free porn game.

The massive difference between and what your friend is dealing with Microshit is crazy.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I had my steam account broken into once. Someone liquidated a bunch of random TF2 collectible shit (I wasn't a collector or anything, so it was mostly the basic unlocks), sold it all for cheap in the auction, and bought a ton of random common cards from one specific account.

Stream refused to reverse the sales, it give me the money from the sold stuff back, even thought it was incredibly obvious which account stole it all. They're not as helpful as they claim

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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is absolutely, 100% a fake or scam email. This email did not come from Microsoft.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Found that sus too but thats what he sent me idk. Also is it really that unbelievable that ms will be too lazy to help someone get their account back?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 27 points 14 hours ago

It's that unbelievable that an email from Microsoft support would contain this much relevant explanation about the issue

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

It’s not lazy. They put a key on the vault with only a single key that can open it and gave that key to your friend. your friend then either gave that key away (got phished), made a bunch of copies of it and left them around town (reused passwords), or the rarest option he let a maintenance guy in who swiped it (installed spyware). None of that changes the fact Microsoft doesn’t have another key, but considering how that email is written it looks like another phishing attempt…

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago

I've actually reset plenty of accounts. You need to send cc info and proof of identity.

I don't believe this happened.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft is rather inept as a company and always has been, so this action sincerely doesn't surprise me.

Quit buying MicroIndiaSoft products.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Mc is such a good game tho😞

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Let your friend know to get Freesm Launcher. Its a fork of Prism Launcher, which is designed to give you easy control over multiple accounts and multiple instances, and Freesm in particular was made to remove the requirement for a M$ account.

I highly recommend purchasing directly from minecraft.net at least once, because despite the bastard publisher, Mojang do deserve the profit of the sale, whatever they get after M$ and payment processors take their share.

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

i mean, the info is already in the wrong hands. now it’s ONLY in the wrong hands.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

I call bullshit. I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy, but this seems fake to me.

Edit: I initially assumed OP created the fake email deliberately for ragebait. But most other people are assuming OP thinks (or thought) this email was real, meaning it's a scam email and OP's friend might be actively falling for the scam. I now agree with this interpretation. Sorry my initial comments were a bit rude.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 11 points 18 hours ago

Because it is. This is ragebait.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds kinda like MS could tell the account wasn’t being used anymore and decided to kill it off rather than leave it to get hacked again. Still, it’s scary to think that MA might delete my account and I’d lose all my online backups. My daily photos are backed up on there.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That's why a lot of folk - okay a tiny amount of dedicated folk - are switching to open source alts or self hosting their own to maximise privacy and actually own their digital media, while keeping some of the comforts of modern technology.

I use a basic SMB shared drive as my own 'cloud', and (Android) FolderSync to periodically sync my phone's folders to it. I then back up that folder to a memory stick. But I've been experimenting with something that gives you the true UX of a cloud service - NextCloud. It's good. Alternatively OwnCloud

Microsoft has been making a lot of anti-consumer moves recently, so it feels even more necessary to cut off dependency to them and the other giant megacorps.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wym? The Post or That They cant help?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The post. The email in the screenshot.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I have two outlook accounts.

One is old and constantly deals with theft attempts.

But they never work because I have a passkey guarding the account.

MS doesn't let you completely disable password login. So the thiefs keep trying. Unfortunately for me. That means every time I want to access the account MS wants me to reset my, clearly working, password.

Not because they guessed my password, but because they tried to giess my password. You know a completely normal occurrence.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Actually they do let you disable it from what i’ve seen. Check again if you still want that

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Oooh thank you I'll take a look

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I’d be curious to see where that links to create a new account takes you to… probably toward htt//youdumbfuck.lol

[–] __siru__@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Slightly off topic, but is there still no viable Minecraft fork?

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There is Luanti with the VoxeLibre plugin.

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 15 hours ago

because Minecraft is not FOSS and nobody wants to risk being sued. you can make a clone, but you can't legally fork Minecraft.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 18 hours ago

Not sure if fork or reimplementation, but Minetest is in almost all Linux distro's repositories. There's plugins and plenty of community servers.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So, to summarize: "someone broke our security and so we're forbidding YOU access to YOUR data."

Sounds about capitalist.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a legitimate support email

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That is fair I suppose I didn't take any steps to actually verify the message. How are you able to verify that it is not legitimate? What was the tell?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The ending is a dead giveaway. There's essentially no email signature, and communications with MS support have the agent's name in the signature, not a generic team name.

Additionally, there's no ticket number. If they had investigated the account and billing history, there would be an associated ticket, a link to said ticket, and verbage about whether or not responding to the email would go on the ticket. A lot of that is handled automatically by contacting them if done electronically.

It's also just not written like a support email from them, which I get is a bit more of a nebulous tell.

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[–] egrets@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"You fell for a phishing scam and hadn't enabled two-factor authentication" is more likely, followed closely by "You used the same password for another service/platform that got compromised".

Microsoft are being unhelpful here and deserve to be criticised, but the fault for the "hack" is almost certainly the responsibility of the user.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago

I agree, I think it was his fault ofc but microsoft is being totally unhelpful and anyone can fall for scam

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They tell you to just pay again because most people will. Most people will just roll over and put up with their shit.

Not that I care about Minecraft, but it's been out like 15 years and it hasn't come down in price. What are they still paying for with its sales? It's straight profit at this point. They could comp the guy a key and they would lose absolutely nothing and only gain goodwill, but they know people are hooked on it and will just pay again. Or at least enough people will just pay again to cover the few who won't.

If your x86-64 machine still runs well, dump Windows and put Linux on it. If it's starting to show its age, consider the Mac mini. $500 gets you a lot of power. If you do buy another machine capable of running Windows, don't buy a pre-built one that comes with a Windows license. Either build, or find a seller that doesn't include the OS or doesn't include a Windows license. Hell, even consider a used business workstation. They'll take the volume license for Windows off of it (it probably wasn't capable of running Windows 11) and you can put Linux on that. If you're intimidated by Linux, Mac is super easy, but the truth is... so is Linux. Start with Ubuntu, it's dead simple, and if you really like the way Windows looks and feels, start with something running KDE. I recommend Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME) but Linux Mint is pretty popular too, and that uses KDE by default. And KDE is more than "the Windows-like frontend." It's actually a lot nicer than that.

I mean Minecraft still gets regular updates so can’t see that it not being discounted is a problem.

Factorio has never been discounted and people are happy with that, I play both and i am happy with both.

Note I’m not commenting on Microsoft’s decision here as frankly I don’t understand it and whether they have an abundance of caution as they don’t know if this person actually owns the account. But morally I think they should just give the dude a new copy of Minecraft as it costs them nothing really.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

encrypted onedrive? what? press X to doubt. how do they do image recognition on uploaded images, then?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They are protecting your personal date by not allowing the only person who should be able to access it?

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes, data must be protected from users at all costs /s

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in my 40's and have always been a tech nerd. I have no personal information or pictures I don't want to get out saved in the cloud. All of my things are only locally saved and backed up. I also keep multiple emails with different passwords and names. My Microsoft account I do have is verified for changes through a non Microsoft email address.

It would be a pain in the ass to screw with me in any major capacity. Quite frankly, I'm still surprised that the masses just accept cloud saving all their pictures and documents, just trusting Amazon or Google or Apple or Microsoft to not have security issues, especially when they've had so many security issues.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Eh tbh idk if he actually uses onedrive but yea probably. Idk if it is an actual technical security issue either, I assume he was phished but im not sure.

Your points are valid though and good on you ofc

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