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I don't think the Republicans really honestly give a shit if more people blame them or not.

I also honestly don't think they intend to re-open the government anytime soon. Possibly ever.

They want Trump as a dictator, and they're basically getting what they want with this, likely eventually arguing that Trump has to make the decisions because congress "no longer works." They've always run on government not working and have spent the better part of fifty years working to make that a reality. Once the executive is the only branch of the government still functioning, they'll have what they want.

The longer it is shutdown, the more essential agencies that keep people accountable and keep the country actually running will be shut down as they funnel more money into ICE and the military, the more authority they can hand off to the Executive branch. They will keep the IRS at bare minimum, but now that they've given ICE carte blanche to access citizens' tax records, they will also use them to enforce tax code.

If people start rioting because of loss of services like SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, all the better for them so they can institute the Insurrection Act. Expect the Pinkertons (who still exist and will just go back to their old ways) and ICE or the military shooting striking workers to come back en vogue.

Also it's clear that they're preparing to either royally fuck with the next election or just cancel it entirely.

As much as I want to believe there is a way out of this, we may already be out of political and legal options to stop this madness.

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This is such a stupid picture.

At this point, most Americans recognize that if Dems vote to end the shutdown, they are really surrendering health care for a large swath of American families. It will take 5 Dems to vote yes, and destroy American health care (making it worse than it already is). Any Dem that does that before this is resolved, should be officially primaried out of office.

Even many MAGAs see this, but are pretending to not see it, for the good of the party. But starting on Saturday, they will all have to come to grips with their new health care premiums, and most will realize that if the Dems vote Yes, those new high health insurance premiums become PERMANENT - and that is exactly what MAGA wants.

The Dems are winning the propaganda war for a change, and as of Saturday, they have the unassailable high ground to demand anything they want.

But what they will really do is eventually fold, thinking that if MAGA takes their health care away, they'll just fight for it back after they win in 2026 and 2028. Then they'll lose both of those elections to massive election fraud, that they will deny as hard as MAGA.

I get that politicians may get deadlocked, Belgium was almost 2 years without government not long ago.

But why does the US politicians deadlock impact public spending already allotted? Especially long running programs and public employees.

In the civilized world, budgets get extended until politicians manage to change it.

No taxation without representation.

A shut down government isn’t representing anyone. So it should come out of taxes.

It feels hopeless, the aca will just be refunded and ERs will be full of uninsured debt ridden sick people. I remember having to go through that, please not again

I think republicans don't care at all what the majority thinks. They understand fully that our Federal system is rigged from top to bottom to give rural landowners disproportional voting power. So you can just lie your ass off to the 30% of your base that is ride-or-die, and as long as that 30% happens to live in the right areas of the right swing states nothing else matters.

They’ll likely kick the can with a CR and they’ll do it all over again.

eh my life experience has thought me that there is a fine line between polls and wishful thinking