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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Particularly from 1981 on, through corporate lobbyists and the merging of various ideological perspectives from both the Republican and Democratic parties, the new lower tax system for the wealthy and for corporations took shape.

Can't vote this away

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's going to take a revolution.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Where we Make America Better!

We're MAB

[–] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I personally like Make America Decent

We're MAD!!!

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Always look on the bright side of life

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Make ourselves better, MOB

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Make America a Democracy and Make America Better

MAD MOB

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago
[–] tonytins@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago

And it'll likely be bigger than the last.

[–] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you were born after like 1980 it’s been pretty apparent that we were all fucking lied to. Go to school, be a good person, try hard, go to college and then you’ll be set for life. What a fucking joke.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The LulaRich documentary is basically a story about capitalism as a whole. The entire economy is a pyramid scheme.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I don't feel like I try to do things correctly or try do good things for nothing. Maybe those are the only things that will get done right today, maybe everyone around me will fuck me over for trying to be decent. But the right way is there for anyone to take that can find it, and good has never existed outside of our minds and hearts. I have to try and I have to try to be good so that I know someone is trying and that good exists. Even if it is imperfect or doesn't change anything else, it changes me.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why 1980?

Because Reagan is largely pointed to as the most accelerative element leading to the fallout which we are dealing with today.

I’d argue it’s pretty much everything after FDR swapped his VP Henry Wallace (who wanted to pass civil rights legislation in the 1940s) for Harry Truman (who instead dropped nukes on Japan) and has been downhill ever since… but there’s a lot of room for nuance.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

BTW, my entire life I'd hear older cons bitch about FDR because even more than Carter, the cons hate the guy.

But they don't seem to realize that FDR was the motherfucking compromise. But these cons are the types that, if they were still alive today would be full magoff and supporting donvict and fElon doing their worst to our institutions, including cutting off social security, medicare and medicaid and kidnapping people and sending them to gulags in other countries, just like I'm sure they would have loved the fascist coup attempt (Business Plot) succeeding back in 1933.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ahhh ok, just curious. Yeah, Ronnie Raygun's people brought in whole new levels of destruction.

I just didn't understand the "born after" part. I watch older movies like The Graduate or read older books like Catcher in the Rye and get the sense that much older genrations felt lied to as well...and I know I as a Gen Xer felt that I had parts of the establishment lying to me.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah this sucks for so many right now.


When you go on LinkedIn and find a major tech company, those who meet the following two criteria:

  • Born after 1980
  • Have “senior” in their title

…they’re numerous right? But is it <1% of 1980 born college grads who are crushing it? Or <10%, or…

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I see stories that Gen Y are about to become the richest generation on record.

And then over the next ten years that Gen Z will beat even that record.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No shit guys. This has been the case for a really long time.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Yes but I think we are just now reaching a critical mass of people for whom it is over but wasn’t for their parents. I believe that’s the most important part, it’s easy to accept that other people are just worse off than you. It’s a lot harder for people to accept being worse off than their parents.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago

Its been over since before carlin did his famous bit. Whats happening now is like the smell that lets everyon know that the neighbor no ones seen in weeks died in their house a month ago.

[–] don@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was officially over quite a long time ago. Are you just now waking up?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

George Carlin said "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it" 20 years ago. This is how America has always been, people are only now starting to wake up to that.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It wasn't always like this, but it has been for a long time, and it has been my entire lifetime for certain.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I applied to a very specific group of white men. That's it

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah I mean I don't think it was intended for anyone other than white men, but we did build a middle class before destroying it with neoliberal garbage politics and global capitalism shortly thereafter.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like it was ever real to begin with

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

It was for white middle class Americans. That’s why they’re so angry now, they can’t guarantee their hierarchical standing so they need to try and pull every other denomination down.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It’s been over for a while. Just took people a while to realize it and admit it. Well, unless you’re republican. The American Dream is still alive. Y’know, the one where a fake billionaire felon can become prez and wreck the country while hiring a billionaire racist foreigner to fuck everything up the felon doesn’t understand. Which is pretty much everything.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Forget it. He's rolling..."

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. 'Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, Bluto, we might get in trouble.' Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this.

[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was it over when Iraq did a 9\11??

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It was over when Abe Lincoln wrote the Declaration of Independence.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

I must have missed that

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“Dream”?

Let’s not kid ourselves, it is and always has been an anxiety driven nightmare for anyone that isn’t white, male, and possesses a cognitively fractured moral compass.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a privileged white male, you guys aren't having an anxiety driven nightmare?!

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good point. I fixed it.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They call it a dream because you have to be asleep to experience it

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

From rags to brownshirts

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure white people are still making money on killing babies abroad. Seems like the American Dream is still around.