SpaceCowboy

The intention of foreign interference campaigns is to create unrest and distrust of institutions in the target country.

The intention is to divide the people so that powers-that-be hoodwink us while stealing from our pockets.

Ah so you're doing that too.

So... what is your country of origin?

International Women's Day is March 8. I had to look that up, but I'm confident that HR at my workplace will send out an email that week as they do every year.

Interesting that people feel like they're trolling people by asking a question there actually is a factual answer for as if it's underlining some unfairness. Doesn't work the same way as if there is not answer for the question. Actually shouldn't you be happy you have a factual answer when someone trolls you with "When's International Men's Day?"

Also HR didn't notify me of International Men's Day this week as they always do for International Women's Day. The post above is the first I've heard of it. But thanks for letting me know this exists!

If an International Men's day was completely non-controversial, there would be no need for it.

The fact that there is controversy indicates that there probably should be a day for discussion about it. I mean there isn't much point to any International X Day, but if there's a value for X that would be upsetting for some people, then maybe would should have a day for that to discuss why that is? People are writing articles and we're discussing it right now, and there is value to that.

So why is it controversial to have an International Men's Day?

I know how common it is for antisemites to use find and replace "Jews" for "Israelis" on the hateful conspircay theories they wrote decades ago. And I know how common it is for people to just lap that shit up now.

My grandfather actually prevented Nazis from getting shot. They had surrendered and some others wanted to shoot them anyway. By preventing some Nazis from getting shot, my grandfather prevented a war crime from happening.

I'm not so naive as to believe it went this way everywhere during the war. In fact I know a guy from my home town who killed a civilian in Italy for no reason. Just an old guy walking down the road killed for no reason. There was no court martial, he just got chewed out by his CO and they moved on. So there was a war criminal living my home town. The other old fellas never talked to home but most people didn't know anything about what he did in the war.

So I understand that not everyone that fought in WWII (the "good" war) were good people. There were many war criminals on the allied side, we just don't talk about it much. But my grandfather was a good man for preventing those soldiers from being executed. I felt like I owed it to him to learn about why Germany gave into the Nazis.

I'm seeing the people go down that same path today. The same rationalizations for antisemitism the Nazis used are being used again. It's shameful that the younger generation can't pick up a history book and see the mistakes they're making. Why would you want to be the antisemitic generation?

I've also looked at the photos of German cities at the end of the War. They're the same as photos of Gaza today. This is what hatred leads to. The German people were able to move past the cycle of hatred and become a prosperous country.

Right here I'm not seeing people wanting to move past their hatred and build something better. It seems people don't want to build a prosperous Palestinian state, they just want to stay in a cycle of hatred and violence forever.

You may feel like reconciling with Israelis is weak, but the alternative is another war like the one we just witnessed happening again. Is that what you want? The real weakness is wanting more Palestinians to die for the sake of some manufactured hatred of Jews.

There is no proof that the Israelis in the article committed war crimes.

So you've already crossed a line by assuming all soldiers in the IDF are war criminals, and since military service is compulsory in Israel, pretty much all Israelis have served in the IDF at some time in their lives. So you've rationalized that all Israelis are war criminals, so that's 30% of all Jews are war criminals.

Maybe in your little bubble these rationalizations about 30% of all Jews being war criminals is somehow distinguishable from antisemitism. But in the real world, making rationalizations about Jews being evil is called antisemitism.

Do you know how common it is for racists to say "I'm not racist you're being racist"?

There wouldn't need to be a Jewish state if Jews were guaranteed entry into Canada and safety while here.

Right now there are calls to ban Jews from entry into Canada.

It's not because of people like me there needs to be a Jewish state. It's because of people like you.

We've had to pass laws to prevent the "free Palestine" crowd from harassing Canadian Jews at synagogues. If that crowd had their way, Jews would not be welcome in Canada even if they were born here.

You want to pretend you're not a part of an antisemitic movement so much that you turn a blind eye to the rampant antisemitism embedded within it. These calls for refusing Israelis entry into Canada is from that part of your movement.

Please read the story of the the MS St. Louis... the Voyage of the Damned.

Canada was one of the countries that refused to allow Jews to enter the country. Now people want us to be that way again. That's the reason why a Jewish state has to exist.

History doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme. It's a sad state of affairs that the younger generation is falling for the same antisemitic bullshit people fell for a hundred years ago, but here we are.

I wish we lived in a world where a Jewish state isn't necessary, but it's necessary because of people rationalizing why it's a good thing to refuse Jews entry into the country. There needs to be at least one country in the world that won't refuse Jews entry. The only guarantee that there will be at least one country in the world that won't refuse the entry of Jews in times of antisemitism (In case you didn't notice, we're in one of those times right now) is if there's a Jewish state.

Yes it's embarrassing to humanity that we can't shake the whole antisemitism thing which necessitates a Jewish state. But humanity sucks and it's the only way for it to be guaranteed there is a safe place for Jews in times like this is for there to be a Jewish state.

So only "the good ones" are allowed?

This is typical of the way racists think,.

Please try to make sure your arguments are based on facts and not your logical falacies.

Back at you. Have these soldiers been caught on camera doing anything illegal? Our society is base on the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. The call is for Israelis to be assumed guilty until proven innocent. We don't treat people from other countries that way.

Would you think it's acceptable to treat people coming from Sudan this way? Why not?

It's obvious to anyone outside your little bubble the discrepancies between how you want Israelis treated and how you want people from other countries treated is because of ethnicity. You want a racist immigration policies, but have rationalized in your mind why that's acceptable. The same rationalizations that all racists use.

Dude, we gotta live in a society and we have to have a government. It seems it doesn't matter what the government does (Mandani isn't even mayor yet) you just want to be a rebel without a clue. You've probably lived a life of privilege so you don't need to worry about real world problems.

Whatever, you do you. But for us peasants that actually need a government, Mandani isn't in the wrong for not burning everything down.