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[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Apropos of nothing - a few months ago I was looking at one of the sites that curated Fediverse block lists. (Can't remember which one.)

Now some of the blocks were quite reasonable. If a hundred site admins look at your site and go "wait a second, these guys are Nazis" and block the site, that's not so controversial, OK?

But some of the blocks were, uh, how do I put this...?

Individual drama between site admins and their cliques.

Beef.
So much beef.
So much beef that I immediately thought "gee, how can c/vegan even safely exist in Lemmy? There's so much beef everywhere."

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There was a post about making cats vegan. The mod then decided that people posting information on why that is a bad idea were antivegan or something. The mod started then removing any information that pointed to cats not being able to be health while on a vegan diet. The Lemmy.world admins them stepped in stating that improperly feeding your cat constitutes animal abuse and is unethical. This made many die hard vegans very mad.

For the record, cats can not be vegan. They can survive on it but they will have shorter more painful lives and they will go blind. There bodies start breaking down without the proteins and amino acids found in meat. I understand why vegans would be unhappy with that answer but it is the way it is.

Interesting enough, that's not the case for dog. You can put a dog on a vegan diet as long as you are very careful and are constantly monitoring. It isn't for the faint of heart and can have very sad outcomes. It isn't something you can arbitrarily do.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's bizarre to me that harcore vegans want to own a pet to begin with. Keeping bees for honey is bad, but separating a kitten from its mother at an early age and castrating it for your convenience and deciding how they live (restricted to an apartment or not) is totally fine?

I understand that most pets live a good life, but man, I can't bring myself to make choices like these. I mean there are ways to circumvent it (get an older cat from an asylum for example) but it doesn't really remove the "pet dilemma" to me.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I knew a hardcore vegan girl like a decade ago when it was rather rare to see someone to that extreme, or at least to me. She said she feeds her cat only vegan food, and i was pretty sure that that's not a thing, but i didn't really know. Her roommate then told me that she goes through quite a lot of cats, because they either die or run away.

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I am a vegan. While my dogs were alive they ate meat as well as veggies. It seems to me that a lot of vegans don't realise that it's a scale and not binary. The whole philosophy of veganism is "as much as you are able" so I guess there is extremism everywhere.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Until I joined Lemmy I had no idea how militant vegans could be. I sorta just assumed they were a different brand of vegetarian.

I'm not opposed to their ideaology in any way, but after reading the comments on a few posts that found their way into my feed... I had to block their communities. It didn't seem likely that I'd be reading any productive discourse there.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Censorship of dissidence discussions due to "misinformation," "disinformation," and only allowing "science."

Our science institutions and media are just as corrupt as our politicians; that is why critical thinking should be encouraged instead of more censorship to baby the people. 

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Keeping predatory grifters away from health discourse is on a different level than discussions of differing opinions.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This person you’re replying to is basically Lemmy’s Goebbels.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So slightly right of Stalin? We know how you love to name call people

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don’t understand your comment, can you explain it please?

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You like to call people names. I've seen you around, you do it a bit more often than most.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don’t recognize you, what communities do you frequent?

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago

You can just check my post history, it's public. But I mainly just go around on /all

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Veganism: Great lifestyle. Wretched, toxic community (mostly).

EDIT: I want to add I'm very much pro-vegan. They're literally right. I probably will go vegan as soon as I work out a solution to my eating disorder (ARFID). You just won't see me in any community. They just seem psychologically unhealthy.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just want to ask for more details on the "they're litterally right" part. Mostly cause I didn't think the had an official organized statement to be right about. But I don't really follow them, so maybe I'm missing something.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Veganism is, in fact:

A. Far more sustainable.

B. Perfectly healthy.

C. Completely possible to adapt to.

Veganism, without a doubt, would be better for the planet, and probably better for humans. I simply don't like the communities.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Know how to tell someone is a Vegan?

They'll tell you. Immediately, and never, ever shut up about it. Ever.